Implemented General Rule Change

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Amandq

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After my resignation on the PartyZone network, I began questioning plenty of rules that were implemented without good reason. Many of which I remembered why they were added and how we punished when someone said or did the action, but I kept coming back to one rule that had no direct reason for it existing. The rule in which you may not speak of or mention another network.

The rule that I have in question is listed as shown below;

  • Discussing and advertising Minecraft networks and servers that are not PartyZone is not permitted and can easily get you banned.

This rule mentions both discussion of and advertising minecraft servers are not permitted, which is completely absurd. I can understand advertising seperate networks and discussing how some network is better than PartyZone but even mentioning a name of a large network in a suggestion or using one of their discord emotes on the PartyZone discord can lead to a punishment.

I was warned for using an external emote on the discord that contained the name of another network. I was in no way attempting to fuel a discussion or advertising the network, but was warned and told off for appealing stating that I shouldn’t be warned for something not clarified in the rules.

Why it should be modified

The reason this rule should be modified because there really shouldn’t be an issue with discussing another network, especially if trying to write a suggestion about a game that is on another network and how we can make it more original or more popular. With a lot of rules, context is extremely important (i.e saying “die” in murder isn’t severe [if context is clear], meanwhile as “die” in creative is). In this case, it’s similar. Saying a networks name and talking about it in a sense that doesn’t fuel advertisement but instead a way to benefit PZ may not be punishable, however saying a network’s name in the sense of it being advertised should still remain punishable.

Below are scenarios that show if this rule was modified what would most likely be allowed and what would most likely not be.

Scenarios where context is shown and is allowed
(in which “Cool Server and Popular Network” are servers unrelated to PartyZone)

SCENARIO 1:

Player One: “I think Popular Network has a few cool games that I would like to see here on PartyZone”

Player Two: “I agree! Popular Network has interesting mechanics that I can see be benifitial to us”.

SCENARIO 2:

Player: (uses an external emote that includes the name of another network)
Player: “We should have something like this on PartyZone!”
or
Player: “Isn’t this a cool emote?!”

Scenarios where context is not shown or is clear advertisement.
(in which “Cool Server and Popular Network” are servers unrelated to PartyZone)

SCENARIO 3:

Player: “I just started an awesome role play on Popular Network. Does anyone want to come?!”

SCENARIO 4:

Player One: “What’s everyone’s favourite server?!”
Player Two: “I love Cool Server!”
Player Three: “Popular Network has an awesome rendition of a minigame!”
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Please leave any constructive criticism or comments below. I will also gladly have a friendly debate with Kirstree and/or Iruu about this matter.
 
Completely agree, it's so dumb I can't even mention a server without getting warned. Like what's it gonna do? Make a few players go on that server once or twice? That's literally the worst that mentioning one server's name is going to do. And even then, you haven't said the ip so if people want to play on that server they're going to have to go find the ip themselves.
 
I completely agree. If someone is advertising a server, punish them. But if two friends are talking about a server they both know and play on, it's a bit ridiculous.
 
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I was once warned on the Discord for substituting a server name with words that sort of sound like the name. I don’t get it! Also here was the context:

User: (something about Server Name)
Me: Hey! You can’t talk about (substitution)

+1
 
I personally agree we’re rather strict, regarding this rule. Simply mentioning or using bypass words for those servers, are all punishable.
It’s a completely different thing when users are asking people to join them on the network, or saying the ip. I don’t see an issue with allowing players to mention server names in appropriate contexts. It’s very uncommon for a user to simply go to another server due to its mention. If they do, they have to search for the IP themselves- no one is inviting them or giving them an IP, to literally change server.
I’ve come across many servers, who do allow the mention, and I’ve never seen any issues with players and it’s mention.

I will be voting +1, unless a stronger opinion arises.
 
Actually I Do Agree

eg

Person 1 : I Really Like bedwars

Person 2 : ikr!

we didnt even say the server name warn no1
We don’t punish for the mention of games on other networks. If you receive a punishment for doing so, I’d recommend appealing. You shouldn’t be getting punished for that.

Unless you’re referring to the server which bedwars is on, yes we do, at the moment, punish for that.
 
Exactlly, I'm back from my 14 day ban because I mentioned a server name which relates to Bees, you should only get warned by saying the ip address.
 
Exactlly, I'm back from my 14 day ban because I mentioned a server name which relates to Bees, you should only get warned by saying the ip address.
Or advertising it without the IP. For example, "Everyone go join <Server Name>" should be punishable because you're telling people to go there
 
I mean is there really any point punishing for mentioning a server which pretty much everyone knows about? And even if you do mention a server that no one knows, it shouldn't be directed to one person, and should only really be a problem if an IP is involved.

I honestly feel that PartyZone is just so JEALOUS. I don't care if you think that's a strong word, because it's the right word. We should be able to talk about whatever we want, I get that PZ can put restrictions on specific words (such as swearing) but common AND popular topics, PartyZone does NOT have the right to stop that.
 
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I completely agree with you. This rule is a bit too strict. I get not being able to advertise, but just saying something as simple as "I love bedwars on [server name]!" can get you warned. That's not really advertising, so this rule should be more specific.
 
Implement this. It’s wayyy to strict atm
 
+1 all the way bb
 
Since resigning as well I can now actually state my truthful opinion on this matter. I 100% agree that the rules are too strict for this network, I understand we're a "child friendly" network but a lot of the playerbase has grown since the beginning of the network and the rules seem to have been restricted even more since the playerbase has grown older, simply saying "Omg (server) is so much worse that partyzone" will get you warned because you said the word "(server)" yet you were complimenting partyzone, this is very absurd and strict and is not necessary at all. Obviously people who are saying "OMG JOIN (SERVER) SO MUCH BETETR THAN PZ" is punishable, same with "OMG JOIN PLAY.THISSERVERISSOAMAZINGANDAWESOME ITS SO COOL" as that's legitimately obvious advertising of another network, but saying a network name in a non harmful manner, or as Amanda has said, using an emote which has another discords name in should not in any way be punishable, its just stupid and causing the older playerbase to not want to be a part of this network anymore.
 
As many have stated previously, this rule seems a bit unnecessary if used in a harmless context ("I love playing -game- on -said server-!" or "PartyZone has much better games than -said server-").

You have my vote.
 
To everyone in this thread, and especially @Amandq for bringing this up:
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I completely agree - this rule is quite ridiculous as it punishes players even when other networks are mentioned in non-advertising contexts. You've got my vote!
 
I highly doubt this will be implemented because the past 473652 threads about rule changes have all been denied, but I sure do hope this one is accepted as i'd love to see this rule change :)
 
I highly doubt this will be implemented because the past 473652 threads about rule changes have all been denied, but I sure do hope this one is accepted as i'd love to see this rule change :)
Wow you are so much better as a normal player you can speak your opinion aha
 
Thank you for the overwhelming support! Here are a few people’s opinions I will comment on;

I honestly feel that PartyZone is just so JEALOUS. I don't care if you think that's a strong word, because it's the right word. We should be able to talk about whatever we want, I get that PZ can put restrictions on specific words (such as swearing) but common AND popular topics, PartyZone does NOT have the right to stop that.

I completely agree. Every time I see someone mention a server it makes me think about how PartyZone makes it seem as though PZ is competing with said network. It makes me think that they can say that they are competing with the largest network in Minecraft and are insecure that their 116 (yes, that is how many people are on PZ as I type this) players will log onto a network that has 17854 players. It’s absurd.

I highly doubt this will be implemented because the past 473652 threads about rule changes have all been denied, but I sure do hope this one is accepted as i'd love to see this rule change :)

I also completely agree. That’s why I messaged Iruu about the matter in game and asked if she could look over it and maybe give me a few pointers.

Wow you are so much better as a normal player you can speak your opinion aha

Yeah, we don’t get a ruler cracked on our knuckles if we speak our opinion now...
 
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