Network Private Lobbies

[Tyler]

I am just going to end my arguments here, there is nothing else needed to be said.

Sorry I was agreeing with you

 

[Oakey]

Sorry I was agreeing with you

What? No that’s not what I am trying to say. I said that I am going to end my argument because everyone is agreeing with me. Relax...

 

[Austin Mayes]

After reading this thread it appears that a lot of you think murder doesn't have an anti-cheat. This is not the case.

Also, I'm reading through this thread but skipping over every post that's in LIGHT GREEN. Cmon people, this isn't the late 90s.

 

[Aminuh]

A lot of people do not want to report their friends, or don't know how to report people. This already happens many times, and with a private lobby where many of the people would not want to report their friends for hacking, it may increase the rates of hacking.
Staff members do go into murder games, however not all the time, as our priority is creative and the lobby.


Same as above, very few players are passionate about the rules and would be willing to report their friends.



There are a lot of different hacks that can be used in murder (sprint, kill aura, bunny hop, x-ray, etc). Most of those could be detected by a better anti-cheat (although, of course, there would always be some that would be missed), though x-ray would be a little harder to catch (as you said). Moderating game chat would also be an issue as well.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this comment, even if majority of E+s play creative, it will still affect murder in the way I mentioned. It's not a major problem, but could be something that upsets lower ranked players.

I don't really understand how it would ruin the gameplay by having others in your game- if they're being rude, report them, if they're hacking, report them. However, I may not understand this fully since I may have different opinions to you, though could you elaborate a bit more?

When I think of why rules exist such as “no swearing, no spamming, no hacking”, I think they’re implemented to make players feel comfortable and for fair gameplay. By no means am I saying, that players should be able to, but overall it’s a private lobby with just your friends.
If a player is uncomfortable with what another player is doing, I don’t see why they won’t report them/message a staff?
It really just seems like a normal murder game to me, but just your friends.

I understand where the staff team is coming from with the concern of moderation, but obviously they’d be able to join if they wish.
Maybe giving them a /pl list ~ Shows a list of all private lobbies created at the time, if they wish to moderate it, they can.
It’s similar to /rp in creative if you really think about it.
Players break rules in /rp, and others report it.
I don’t see the difference, feel free to explain any differences you spot.

I agree with the majority here. I’m spend most of my time moderating Creative but I do try my best to switch to Murder every now and then. Whenever I go to mMurder there are at most 8 people on one lobby and typically only two lobbies even have people playing in them. Partyzone is still a very small server and adding this change might lessen the playercount in Murder due to Elite+ always being in their private servers and the other players would be left out. As Catten said earlier, some players have to wait a long time to start a game due to the lack of players online.

I also agree with Bcnnn since having a private server would make them harder to moderate and therefore easier to get hacked or abuse. MintTea’s add-on to the suggestion did change the circumstances with not earning any coins, however, some people only play Murder to earn coins and that would decrease the value of the private servers. In general I don’t think many people would play on private servers if this were to be implemented and might result the same as ES with a lack of players.

For now I’ll be voting -1 but my vote can be swayed if another suggestion comes up that appeals to my points.

I’m unsure what you’re speaking about? When I’m online there is over half or a little bit less than half on the Murder servers, it may be timezones, I’m unsure.
My perspective murder games do not take forever to start.

I’ll repeat, this perk would only be available to E+, I honestly think this will give players motivation to donate, which will give more money for the server to grow.

It’s entirely possible for it to go the opposite direction, but we’ll never know, unless we actually see it happen.

Maybe disable winning coins on private servers so they can’t farm coins! Just an idea!

(I’m sorry but I’m wondering why you use green text xD)
Adding on, it’s still a normal murder game... there is no reason to disable coins/ranking.
Farming is still possible without private lobbies..

Just because an idea is cool doesn’t mean it will succeed in game. Look what happened to survival games, for example. Yes it was a cool idea, and was supported on forums, but that didn’t mean it succeeded in game.
The ranks are underperked, yes, but what’s the point of implementing “cool” ideas if they don’t actually succeed. Implemented features need to go through a process, cool will not get it anywhere. Also everyone has a different view on what cool is, so your definition may be different to others.

But yeah this idea would be nicer if anti cheat was available and a solution to help moderate was implemented.

( sorry if that sounded rude! )

It is not certain is won’t succeed, Mint is correct when they stated ranks are underperked, not many are donating anymore (I’m not completely sure), because ranks are expensive with little gadgets/perks attached to them.
Nobody buys ranks = no money, which in the end is a negative thing for this server.

Well... the server is currently low enough where a few lobbies can be empty. Yet a year or two ago I walked into a simuliar thing yet they "kindly" asked people to leave. Just 2 or some days ago this occured again. Personally I dislike this as boosting could be a thing yet I guess it is what it is. I heard a rumor someone boosted from rank like 140 to 30 or 10. Yet just a rumor even if I know it was possible.

Its possible to farm without this suggestion, I honestly think it’s not that serious.
Overall I just want to be able to play a game with my friends alone in a call.

After reading this thread it appears that a lot of you think murder doesn't have an anti-cheat. This is not the case.

Also, I'm reading through this thread but skipping over every post that's in LIGHT GREEN. Cmon people, this isn't the late 90s.

Well there we go.

And big mood.

 

[Jxliee]

It is not certain is won’t succeed, Mint is correct when they stated ranks are underperked, not many are donating anymore (I’m not completely sure), because ranks are expensive with little gadgets/perks attached to them.
Nobody buys ranks = no money, which in the end is a negative thing for this server.

Never said it wasn’t going to succeed. I basically just said “just because an idea is cool, doesn’t mean it’ll do well in game, everyone will see it differently and cool sometimes won’t actually go far in game all the time”. That’s a general comment to point out ideas can’t just be cool to be accepted.
I then commented about the suggestion at the end.

 

[Aminuh]

Never said it wasn’t going to succeed. I basically just said “just because an idea is cool, doesn’t mean it’ll do well in game, everyone will see it differently and cool sometimes won’t actually go far in game all the time”. That’s a general comment to point out ideas can’t just be cool to be accepted.

Of course, my mistake.

 

[Timelord]

Its possible to farm without this suggestion, I honestly think it’s not that serious.
Overall I just want to be able to play a game with my friends alone in a call.

My statement was that it isn't needed to be implemented as it is already possible to do this. As well if new players joined and couldn't grt into a murder game because everyone is in a private lobby, this really would not benefit the server.

And for that friends part, just because you aren't alone doesn't mean you can't have fun. I don't really have much fun either until I feel like putting work into it. Crack some jokes around, have some fun such as trying to scare someone as murderer. You might not get that alone part but you can still have fun. In the end who cares if you lose the game a rank or what not.

After reading this thread it appears that a lot of you think murder doesn't have an anti-cheat. This is not the case.

Also, I'm reading through this thread but skipping over every post that's in LIGHT GREEN. Cmon people, this isn't the late 90s.

Hype but Sarah is better unless that is sarah o-o

 

[Aminuh]

My statement was that it isn't needed to be implemented as it is already possible to do this. As well if new players joined and couldn't grt into a murder game because everyone is in a private lobby, this really would not benefit the server.

And for that friends part, just because you aren't alone doesn't mean you can't have fun. I don't really have much fun either until I feel like putting work into it. Crack some jokes around, have some fun such as trying to scare someone as murderer. You might not get that alone part but you can still have fun. In the end who cares if you lose the game a rank or what not.

Hype but Sarah is better unless that is sarah o-o

It isn’t necessarily dire to implement it, but it’s a new and fun perk to give to Elite+ who spend around 140$ USD (I don’t know the prices?)
It’s not entirely certain that if implemented, people will only join private lobbies, as you said, you like to play in public lobbies, so who is to stopping you from doing so? I’m sure other people think like you as well. You and other players are definitely able to continue going into those lobbies. Please keep in mind that it’s a perk only available to E+, there might be a few of them but I doubt they’re going to recruit the entire server to join a murder game, it them and a couple friendds. It is also not certain this will completely kill of the murder game to the public, and if somehow does die to private lobbies, which I highly doubt, it could be removed.

Though on the other hand, I see your concern, I cannot 100% garuntee, it just depends overall.

I would also like to disagree with you when you mentioned it wouldn’t benefit the server, maybe you could elaborate. My thoughts were it’d boost players to donate, thus giving the server more money to expand/grow.

This second part of your reply is completely based on personal opinions and feelings. Yeah of course you can still have fun in public Murder! I do so, but I would really love to see this become implemented.

Thank you for your comment though

 

[Liillii]

Although it would be fun to play privately with your friends, here are the reasons I do not want this to happen.

It makes it a lot harder to catch rude people as the players that report them won't be able to join the server. They won't tell on each other if they're all friends and can stay unbanned although they have broken many rules. They'll know when staff are there as it is someone they don't already know. I'm sorry but I believe this will just cause more issues. Yes, it would be fun to play only with friend, however, that also takes away from people that love the mystery of not knowing who people are. People could also abuse this and get all the achievements by letting each other win. I'm pretty sure this was once added but removed for a reason I'm not sure of.


Sorry -1, though, nice suggestion.