General /history

[ewsies]

As a former staff member I know that this is a thing for staff. It was very useful but I believe that it'll be very useful for us members aswell.

If you don’t know what this command does; it lists a persons recent in game names, just like namemc but it’s in game (really useful).

A lot of times I'm curious about other players old ign's but I'm also way too lazy to look it up on namemc. So what I'm suggesting is that all members should have access to this command to make it more simple. I don't see why only staff members have this as it actually affects all of us.

 

[sweeteaa]

I like this idea. I am too lazy to check NameMC sometimes for a player with a new IGN's NameMC because I have to log out then come back in to MC. I'd like for this to be implemented.
+1 for me Elin

 

[ABerryyy]

As fun as it would be, I would have to disagree with this there already is namemc for the histories of players usernames. Why I'm disagreeing? It's because having /history is technically recording the players database without their permission from the server side because not many would want others to immediately know who they are. Websites like NameMc are recording our database it's enough, adding a unasked recording of the users data from the server side wouldn't be fun.

 

[Merp]

I will have to disagree. As said above there is namemc which easily holds all our usernames records and really if someone is on your friend list and you don't recognize their name you could just easily pm them and ask their previous name as they are your friend because I feel like 99% of people would not be hurt if you just pm them saying that you don't recognize them and what their old username was. Really /history should just stay as a staff command and I don't really see a need for it for players as namemc exists and most likely if you notice someone you don't recognize their username they are on your friends list so you should just be able to ask them.

 

[sweeteaa]

As fun as it would be, I would have to disagree with this there already is namemc for the histories of players usernames. Why I'm disagreeing? It's because having /history is technically recording the players database without their permission from the server side because not many would want others to immediately know who they are. Websites like NameMc are recording our database it's enough, adding a unasked recording of the users data from the server side wouldn't be fun.

Whenever I ask my friends who they are they ask me to go on NameMC, which tells me I can look on their NameMC. I see nothing wrong with this. Maybe when you do /history [username] a pop up would come up for the user to approve that or not?
For example..
sweetea_: /history @HopesAndDreams__
(On your screen): sweetea_ would like to view your name history. Will you allow this information to be revealed? Yes or No
I still stay with my opinion +1

I will have to disagree. As said above there is namemc which easily holds all our usernames records and really if someone is on your friend list and you don't recognize their name you could just easily pm them and ask their previous name as they are your friend because I feel like 99% of people would not be hurt if you just pm them saying that you don't recognize them and what their old username was. Really /history should just stay as a staff command and I don't really see a need for it for players as namemc exists and most likely if you notice someone you don't recognize their username they are on your friends list so you should just be able to ask them.

They normally tell me "I don't remember, go on NameMC" or "I'm too lazy, go on NameMC" and then I am too lazy too check NameMC so I just procrasinate till later. Like I had suggested, this should be a good alternative instead of just doing /history and it showing all usernames.

For example..
sweetea_: /history @HopesAndDreams__
(On your screen): sweetea_ would like to view your name history. Will you allow this information to be revealed? Yes or No
I still stay with my opinion +1

Edit- Like Aminuh said, you'll find out either way, there's no difference. But doing it in game makes takes a step off going on the web then going back.

 

[Aminuh]

A common factor in the “I disagree” is the fact namemc exists.
Either way you’ll find their previous usernames, it’s just up to the server if they’d like to make it easier for their players.
There’s no need for it, but it’s a simple command that could possibly be a perk for VIP+ and up.

I’m going to vote +1

Edit:

Whenever I ask my friends who they are they ask me to go on NameMC, which tells me I can look on their NameMC. I see nothing wrong with this. Maybe when you do /history [username] a pop up would come up for the user to approve that or not?
For example..
sweetea_: /history @HopesAndDreams__
(On your screen): sweetea_ would like to view your name history. Will you allow this information to be revealed? Yes or No
I still stay with my opinion +1

They normally tell me "I don't remember, go on NameMC" or "I'm too lazy, go on NameMC" and then I am too lazy too check NameMC so I just procrasinate till later. Like I had suggested, this should be a good alternative instead of just doing /history and it showing all usernames.

I feel as if this is a little too complicated, there is no need to ask players for their consent, because either way you can check it on NameMC without it.

 

[Merp]

Well what if you just happen to go through your friends list and someone is offline and that message just happens not to appear when they do come online? Maybe if it's possible for a command where you do like /commandname *username* and it'll tell you their username before that one. As /history is really for a staff purpose as you really wouldn't need to see all of their old usernames and really if it were to be a command it should be available for everyone as it's just telling you someone's previous name and it's not really much of a perk cause it's just telling you someone's previous name so really if this were to happen it should be available to everyone.

 

[Aminuh]

Well what if you just happen to go through your friends list and someone is offline and that message just happens not to appear when they do come online? Maybe if it's possible for a command where you do like /commandname *username* and it'll tell you their username before that one. As /history is really for a staff purpose as you really wouldn't need to see all of their old usernames and really if it were to be a command it should be available for everyone as it's just telling you someone's previous name and it's not really much of a perk cause it's just telling you someone's previous name so really if this were to happen it should be available to everyone.

How I’m viewing it, I’m seeing how it’s not a necessary command because of namemc, why not implement this as a small additional perk for ranked players rather than just allowing it for everyone. If it’s for “staff purposes”, I would’ve thought giving this as a perk would be better than allowing everyone to use it, if you understand what I mean.

ewsies’ thread is simple, instead of the developers having to implement a new command to show just one previous username (which in my opinion is a waste of time), implement it or don’t.

 

[Jxliee]

Well what if you just happen to go through your friends list and someone is offline and that message just happens not to appear when they do come online? Maybe if it's possible for a command where you do like /commandname *username* and it'll tell you their username before that one. As /history is really for a staff purpose as you really wouldn't need to see all of their old usernames and really if it were to be a command it should be available for everyone as it's just telling you someone's previous name and it's not really much of a perk cause it's just telling you someone's previous name so really if this were to happen it should be available to everyone.

What’s the point of a staff purpose if players can look it up on namemc anyway?

Either way, I agree with sweetea_ and Aminuh. A lot of players often say “I’m too lazy” to check namemc when players couldn’t be bothered telling them their whole list of names, while history is a simple in-game perk that doesn’t even take you 2 minutes, unless you’re internet is bad. And if your computer is slow and takes a while to open up apps, god the wait of even letting google load is sad. Plus it’ll avoid *most* of the awkward conversations of “do I know you? What’s your past username” because you can easily do /history, which is quicker than asking for someone’s past users and being unsuccessful or just waiting for namemc to even load all the information you need.

 

[fizz]

If it was originally made for staff purposes, there's obviously a reason for that. I don't even think it's that wise to start publicly disclosing the commands staff can use, even if it's a simple one - you could've just made the suggestion without including that part. I just don't like the thought of converting staff commands to public commands, y'know?

 

[ABerryyy]

/history is already a command for staff for certain reasons which I wouldn't want to disclose, just it's a command given by the essentials.

If we add another /history it's not possible and you can always just ask the player what's your previous in-game names because they won't be hurt by it I've asked many before and they've asked me too.

 

[sweeteaa]

If it was originally made for staff purposes, there's obviously a reason for that. I don't even think it's that wise to start publicly disclosing the commands staff can use, even if it's a simple one - you could've just made the suggestion without including that part. I just don't like the thought of converting staff commands to public commands, y'know?

But she knew it was thing because she was staff, that's how she thought of this idea, lmao.
I don't think there was a "certain purpose" for having this as a staff rank only, as ewsies said, it's not something to OP for non-donors or donors to use. And it's not like something that affects all of us. Which is why this rank should be implemented, also:

What’s the point of a staff purpose if players can look it up on namemc anyway?

/history is already a command for staff for certain reasons which I wouldn't want to disclose, just it's a command given by the essentials.

If we add another /history it's not possible and you can always just ask the player what's your previous in-game names because they won't be hurt by it I've asked many before and they've asked me too.

Ok.. already answered that.

We don't add "another /history" we use the /history staff has but enable it for donors. Simple.

A lot of players often say “I’m too lazy” to check namemc when players couldn’t be bothered telling them their whole list of names, while history is a simple in-game perk that doesn’t even take you 2 minutes, unless you’re internet is bad.

A lot of times I'm curious about other players old ign's but I'm also way too lazy to look it up on namemc.

I am too lazy to check NameMC sometimes for a player with a new IGN's NameMC because I have to log out then come back in to MC.

 

[Merp]

You might not be able to tell why we use it as a staff command, but it is actually a command we do use for staff resources. So i feel like really it should stay as a staff command due to the purpose we use it for and really namemc does exist for the reason you don't recognizes someones name. As well some of the reason you want it is only because you are too lazy to go on namemc. And there is a reason for it being a staff command and not a command for everyone. And i feel like if we were to give the command out to non-staff it really should be for everyone because all it does is tell you someones old username, is that really so special we'd make it a perk for ranks? And really i've never met someone who was hurt by me asking what their previous username. So really i don't think /history should be available for non staff.

As well stated above that namemc exists for everyone to see so why shouldn't everyone be allowed to just do /history, yes namemc exists for everyone but a reason why /history really should stay as a staff command is due to the purpose we need it for.

 

[sweeteaa]

I can't really explain any further. I've stated all my points and I have tried to make my point, @Aminuh I'll have to leave this one to you.

 

[ABerryyy]

/history command which comes with the server essentials is a completely different command from this, it's unnecessary and useless to add another history command and a staff member is busy enough we can't have people asking them the previous usernames of other people.

 

[Aminuh]

/history is already a command for staff for certain reasons which I wouldn't want to disclose, just it's a command given by the essentials.

If we add another /history it's not possible and you can always just ask the player what's your previous in-game names because they won't be hurt by it I've asked many before and they've asked me too.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by it’s not possible?
Your experience when you asked a player to their past usernames isn’t everyone else’s experience.

If it was originally made for staff purposes, there's obviously a reason for that. I don't even think it's that wise to start publicly disclosing the commands staff can use, even if it's a simple one - you could've just made the suggestion without including that part. I just don't like the thought of converting staff commands to public commands, y'know?

Seeing players past usernames is not a secret aka only something staff can see.

I don’t see the dramatics with this suggestion.

 

[ABerryyy]

Can you elaborate on what you mean by it’s not possible?
Your experience when you asked a player to their past usernames isn’t everyone else’s experience.

/history is a command for staff purpouses only which exists and this command has nothing absolutely to do with seeing the previous names of the players, instead I think we should have the command which let's you to see when the player was last online because this command shows your the previous ign of the player.

 

[Aminuh]

/history is a command for staff purpouses only which exists and this command has nothing absolutely to do with seeing the previous names of the players, instead I think we should have the command which let's you to see when the player was last online because this command shows your the previous ign of the player.

The entire point of this thread/suggestion is to allow players to see previous usernames.. I’m very confused on the point you’re trying to convey.

You might not be able to tell why we use it as a staff command, but it is actually a command we do use for staff resources. So i feel like really it should stay as a staff command due to the purpose we use it for and really namemc does exist for the reason you don't recognizes someones name. As well some of the reason you want it is only because you are too lazy to go on namemc. And there is a reason for it being a staff command and not a command for everyone. And i feel like if we were to give the command out to non-staff it really should be for everyone because all it does is tell you someones old username, is that really so special we'd make it a perk for ranks? And really i've never met someone who was hurt by me asking what their previous username. So really i don't think /history should be available for non staff.

As well stated above that namemc exists for everyone to see so why shouldn't everyone be allowed to just do /history, yes namemc exists for everyone but a reason why /history really should stay as a staff command is due to the purpose we need it for.

Well, again my thought process was if staff is uncomfortable with it being a command in general, make it a perk so less people have access to it.
I’m 100% okay with this being a command everyone can do.
Seeing someone’s past username is not a secret, yes namemc exists, but it would make it easier for everyone, so I don’t see the issue with giving everyone access to see past usernames.
If this /history command also gives out player information, then maybe a /namehistory (username) Could be an alternative solution.

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[ABerryyy]

Can we just have the /seen command? It also shows the last username of the player.

 

[sweeteaa]

Okay I'm gonna object to this:

Can we just have the /seen command? It also shows the last username of the player.

I haven't been on here since 2016 or 2017 (can't remember that much), that player could've changed their username multiple times while I was gone so then I'd have to keep asking them to go further back in time and then they'd link me to their NameMC right after 2 times of telling me their couple of recent usernames.
/history is completely helpful you'll go on NameMC anyway to check their full history of names that they had. The only difference, is that you are doing it in game. It's basically NameMC IN-GAME.

A lot of people are saying:
"What if they don't want it to be seen?"- Well according to NameMC's info section:
"Mojang has stated that it is their intention that previous usernames can be seen¹, and they have provided a method to allow the public to access this information.² This website is meant to be a reference tool with the goal of having the most complete and accurate name information possible. Therefore, name information will not be removed from this website, and any requests to have name information removed from this website will be ignored."

It doesn't matter, even Mojang stated itself that usernames are meant to be seen through NameMC anyway to have access to this information. I don't know why this reason is pushing away this great idea to be implemented.

"But staff don't want to give it to us for a reason."- If they don't want to show it to us for a reason, what is the reason? I see nothing harmful about this command being given to players as a useful resource. What is your "purpose" for only keeping it as a staff command? Again, this is really confusing me since it's not as OP as people think it is and I really would like an answer to this one by @Kirstree or someone who is in charge of giving the staff team specific commands on what to do. Because I'm getting answers with no specific information on why this is supposedly a staff only command that guest/donors aren't allowed to use, even near the future.