This isn't EA, Noble.
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As an Ex-Member of the staff team, I have a few words with this. Even though it is just a little under a year since I was staff.
1: When Gaurav took over PZ his intentions and Gigo's were for PZ to be brought back to its glory days. For it to regrow and do whatever they could to make that possible. Now, Noble has decided to take on that challenge for us since Gaurav was unable to continue due to IRL stuff going on. To me, I find that Noble has really stepped up as an Owner and is doing whatever he can to make sure PZ stays PZ. Completely separating Neme and PZ. Even though Neme is our sister server, it has nothing to do with PZ. And Noble is doing a great job in pushing things to change in the way he thinks is fair. He and Gaurav were very open about asking Staff their opinions on things, Loved getting feedback from the community. They always looked at the community feedback and took into account what the players would like to see. They did their best into implementing what they could in such times that the community wanted. They try to get updates and changes in as quickly as they can to not upset any of the members. But do keep in mind, It takes a lot of time to make the changes work for everyone. You have to have faith in Him, the Management Team, The Developers (Since there isn't as many as there used to be). It'll take longer for the expectations to be met.
He wants all updates and changes to be bug-free and the best it can be at launch. Even if they did miss something and something broke and they have no idea about it. They look to the community to help them. Report whatever you can (As long as it is an issue and not a joke report) T
The party point system has nothing to do with in-game advantages. That is all the coin system that you get from playing games. the party point system is strictly cosmetic like said in earlier posts and always has been and because of EULA regulations, always will be. If you are really frustrated about the fact you can't get any cosmetics because of the EULA regulations. Take it up with Mojang and not PZ as they don't make the EULA regulations.
2: From when I was a staff, there were a couple of times the punishments were actually changed to be lighter on players. Gaurav and Noble really do care about fairness in punishments but can't always change them right away as they have things that are higher priorities to handle first. So, changes may and will take quite a time to take effect and will take time to even notice. Staff also have to get used to all the changes in the rules and punishment systems. When extra length punishments were issued was due to finding extra rules broken on top of the previous ones. So, they will try and punish for all infractions done if they haven't already been punished for the infraction they were caught for. Would you rather be punished for all of the infractions committed in one punishment but just for longer? or be punished right away after you just served the previous one?.
3: When they add updates and new things to the server, it is upon the communities request. To fix things that are broken means to figure out how it broke, what broke, look for the break in the coding, fix the coding, make sure it's fixed, release the fix. It takes time to figure out how bugs became bugs and wherein the coding the bug occurred. And most players want something new, and something to change soon. So, sometimes putting out something new for the players is the best they can do to make players happy until they can fix what is broken.
4: Context. That should pretty much explain itself. when someone is asking everyone questions and stuff. it's the way they word things. Like said above, When you say "What's everyone's favorite food to eat?" It wouldn't be considered encouraging spam due to everyone not having the same response. But if you say "If your favorite food is pizza say I" That would be encouraging spam due to them telling people to say a specific thing that could cause the annoyance and spam of chat being the same thing.
When you are talking about a sensitive subject. Context is very important about it. As the context is what everyone will see and take into thought about what they are saying.
So, in reality. If you look at it from their perspective. They are trying their hardest to do the best they can. Keep in mine, That staff have lives outside of Minecraft and the Management team always has them take IRL stuff into higher priority as it can be a lot of different things.
Just my response. I'm not sure if anything else has changed behind the scenes since it's been almost a year since I was staff.
1: When Gaurav took over PZ his intentions and Gigo's were for PZ to be brought back to its glory days. For it to regrow and do whatever they could to make that possible. Now, Noble has decided to take on that challenge for us since Gaurav was unable to continue due to IRL stuff going on. To me, I find that Noble has really stepped up as an Owner and is doing whatever he can to make sure PZ stays PZ. Completely separating Neme and PZ. Even though Neme is our sister server, it has nothing to do with PZ. And Noble is doing a great job in pushing things to change in the way he thinks is fair. He and Gaurav were very open about asking Staff their opinions on things, Loved getting feedback from the community. They always looked at the community feedback and took into account what the players would like to see. They did their best into implementing what they could in such times that the community wanted. They try to get updates and changes in as quickly as they can to not upset any of the members. But do keep in mind, It takes a lot of time to make the changes work for everyone. You have to have faith in Him, the Management Team, The Developers (Since there isn't as many as there used to be). It'll take longer for the expectations to be met.
He wants all updates and changes to be bug-free and the best it can be at launch. Even if they did miss something and something broke and they have no idea about it. They look to the community to help them. Report whatever you can (As long as it is an issue and not a joke report) T
The party point system has nothing to do with in-game advantages. That is all the coin system that you get from playing games. the party point system is strictly cosmetic like said in earlier posts and always has been and because of EULA regulations, always will be. If you are really frustrated about the fact you can't get any cosmetics because of the EULA regulations. Take it up with Mojang and not PZ as they don't make the EULA regulations.
2: From when I was a staff, there were a couple of times the punishments were actually changed to be lighter on players. Gaurav and Noble really do care about fairness in punishments but can't always change them right away as they have things that are higher priorities to handle first. So, changes may and will take quite a time to take effect and will take time to even notice. Staff also have to get used to all the changes in the rules and punishment systems. When extra length punishments were issued was due to finding extra rules broken on top of the previous ones. So, they will try and punish for all infractions done if they haven't already been punished for the infraction they were caught for. Would you rather be punished for all of the infractions committed in one punishment but just for longer? or be punished right away after you just served the previous one?.
3: When they add updates and new things to the server, it is upon the communities request. To fix things that are broken means to figure out how it broke, what broke, look for the break in the coding, fix the coding, make sure it's fixed, release the fix. It takes time to figure out how bugs became bugs and wherein the coding the bug occurred. And most players want something new, and something to change soon. So, sometimes putting out something new for the players is the best they can do to make players happy until they can fix what is broken.
4: Context. That should pretty much explain itself. when someone is asking everyone questions and stuff. it's the way they word things. Like said above, When you say "What's everyone's favorite food to eat?" It wouldn't be considered encouraging spam due to everyone not having the same response. But if you say "If your favorite food is pizza say I" That would be encouraging spam due to them telling people to say a specific thing that could cause the annoyance and spam of chat being the same thing.
When you are talking about a sensitive subject. Context is very important about it. As the context is what everyone will see and take into thought about what they are saying.
So, in reality. If you look at it from their perspective. They are trying their hardest to do the best they can. Keep in mine, That staff have lives outside of Minecraft and the Management team always has them take IRL stuff into higher priority as it can be a lot of different things.
Just my response. I'm not sure if anything else has changed behind the scenes since it's been almost a year since I was staff.
(I reread through this and realized I sounded a bit harsh, but I'm not tryna be mean or attacking anyone sorry if it offends you or anything not my intention) I’m just going to say a little bit. I know a few of you are going to think I’m biased because I spent a while in the staff team, but whatever. The staff team is LITERALLY a team of kids, run by kids, who just so happen to be dealing with the behavior of kids. There is no perfect. The fact that people think there is just infuriates me beyond measure. I was 13 when I went into the staff team and I recently just turned 14. I was a kid (still am) and I will admit that I acted like one sometimes. From personal experience and from watching others, I can tell you that sooooo many people expected the staff team to act like fully developed adults. Not only in maturity, but in work ethic and problem solving. I suppose what I’m asking is to give the staff a break. For a group of kids, they aren’t doing bad at all. They are actually doing really good. They will make mistakes. I can literally tell you about the time I deleted several hundred claimed creative plots (I fixed it, don’t @ me lol). You mention staff spamming in build battle. Actually tell a leadership member instead of stating it here and being anonymous about who. Leadership will actually do something about it and make sure it doesn’t happen again. 90% of people don’t do that and that’s why there are reoccurring problems. That’s all I have to say, ig.
EDIT: I didn't have time to read that much more than the initial post to begin with and I'm hearing a lot about the crab emoji issue. I'm not going to go into any detail but the crab emoji was punished for not just because it was spammy, but for a completely other reason, as well. A personal opinion though: I feel as if a lot of people used to crab emoji just to joke around not knowing the actual reasoning behind it and were punished as if they were apart of what made the crab emoji relevant in the first place by mistake. And please trust me when I say the crab emoji and what it represented at the time WAS worth punishment.
EDIT: I didn't have time to read that much more than the initial post to begin with and I'm hearing a lot about the crab emoji issue. I'm not going to go into any detail but the crab emoji was punished for not just because it was spammy, but for a completely other reason, as well. A personal opinion though: I feel as if a lot of people used to crab emoji just to joke around not knowing the actual reasoning behind it and were punished as if they were apart of what made the crab emoji relevant in the first place by mistake. And please trust me when I say the crab emoji and what it represented at the time WAS worth punishment.
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Kids are kids yes, so we are as players as well.
We as players are constantly being checked for breaking the rules. In a perfect "staff" world, all rule breakers are caught, there would be so many players with bans/mutes/warnings that it wouldnt be logical to even have a server. It's not that some of us intend to break them but the fact we are also kids and don't understand/know things. If you read my story one of my main points was evidence. Sure I might of hacked but maybe it's a random possibility that I looked here or there. The staff were too uptight maybe due to pressure or whatever there was but it was not fixed the second time I got banned. I even posted a suggestion for more evidence for a ban etc and I was shut down.
I'm just your ordinary player trying to have fun and I felt like I couldn't do that. I don't know how it will be now but let us have our fun too and not feel like every rule breaker needs to be put to justice. I preferred back in 2014-2015 as they didn't just give out bans but thought about it before and if there was any doubt it wasn't even considered. As well many talked through PMs about their warnings etc or at least from what I remember.
Anyways staff members need to focus less on giving punishments but how to be more thoughtful and humane. Cause we make mistakes too.
PZ back in 2014-2015 most of them were kids too.
yeah i totally understand that. I do agree there are certainly things that could be changed as far as severity in punishment and leniency towards a punished player goes. I was targetting that mini rant primarily at how this thread started off with just a lot of people pointing out mistakes and staff doing bad things and what they thought were outrageous punishments and being ignored etc etc. some staff do need to realize they are dealing with kids, as well. i do think it's slips the minds of both sides sometimes but that's just my opinion.
I honestly do understand about this part, I'm only going to contribute to this part, as I'm an ex-owner of a server, which caused out of hand. There have been some acts towards us about Party Zone, a player from party zone, saying that we're copying pz this, you're dumb for doing this that.
When Noble had said something about the server having some issues with the staff. I will say this, causing any toxicity or any malicious acts towards PZ could cause an issue, like for a small discord server just for players to have fun, it CAN cause like if staff were in it, and malicious acts were starting to building up, it could cause the PZ Staff to pull out, as it may deem as unfair to all of us, which had happened in my server. Someone was acting super malicious towards this server. Staff, if you see this, I deeply apologize for any issue that went towards you. Again, if you would like me to talk to you to clarify who it was, I can surely message you and work it through, which this investigation of who was being malicious towards you is postponed since the server has been shut down. Again, message me if you want me to figure out who it was with you. Thanks!
As I agree with this, it is a fault of a staff member and should be something to report to a leadership team member. I think its deeply important to let other staff know of the player and the certain staff member that they have leaked IMPORTANT information, which can get the staff demoted, probably banned. And the player could get muted, or banned, depending on the severity. (If I am wrong, please correct me) Honestly, I have been staff before, but only for at least 2 weeks. I'm not super experienced with the staff life, but I get the feel of what criticism that we've experienced.
Overall, I understand that you're very concerned about some things of Party Zone, since I'm just a regular player. I'm sure your needs will be dealt with by staff.
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