Why PZ should stick with TeamSpeak...

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I know I know, NOT a popular opinion, but hear me out.

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Here are some reasons why there should be a Teamspeak:

- TeamSpeak's voice and muted chats are much better set up. There would need to be a new text channel created with each voice channel.

- TeamSpeak isn't as hard to moderate as Discord. Think about it: 50-100+ people every day having long text conversations compared to voice conversations with limited text moderation.

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Here's are the reasons why people want a PZ Discord:

- They don't feel like taking the time to download TeamSpeak, link their account, and wait for someone to join their channel.
(I get it, with discord you always have someone to talk to, but if you really want to talk with your friends on discord create your own server.)

- They don't feel like talking/are not able to talk.
(Now this one isn't an issue at all. If you don't want to or cannot talk then you don't have to. As stated before there's a chat set up with each channel so you can still chat with people in the channel with you! :D)

- Discord is free.
(There’s no argument to this point, but I do say that the cost of a TS is roughly 100 dollars per year. This is definitely in the budget of PZ, taking into account all the E/E+ purchases this past Christmas.)

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That's just my opinion though, if PZ still wants a discord, then create a discord, but please don't remove the TeamSpeak.
I don't think they'll remove TeamSpeak and replace it with Discord.
 
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I don't think they'll remove TeamSpeak and replace it with Discord.
Do you think that they would keep both but the majority would move to Discord? I mean I think they are already in the process of it. If you check the application to become Helper, it used to be know how to use Teamspeak. Now it is, know how to use Teamspeak and Discord. I think the server is already transitioning due to the majority using Discord instead.
 
Do you think that they would keep both but the majority would move to Discord? I mean I think they are already in the process of it. If you check the application to become Helper, it used to be know how to use Teamspeak. Now it is, know how to use Teamspeak and Discord. I think the server is already transitioning due to the majority using Discord instead.
There's an unofficial Discord server, but I believe they wouldn't rip it off as soon as they launch a Discord server.
 
Do you think that they would keep both but the majority would move to Discord? I mean I think they are already in the process of it. If you check the application to become Helper, it used to be know how to use Teamspeak. Now it is, know how to use Teamspeak and Discord. I think the server is already transitioning due to the majority using Discord instead.
The reason why Discord was added to the requirements is because there is currently an Official PZ Staff group. That requirement has nothing to do with a public PZ Discord.
 
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The reason why Discord was added to the requirements is because there is currently an Official PZ Staff group. That requirement has nothing to do with a public PZ Discord.
So they have an entire PZ Staff Group that is on a Discord, but its not official yet... Ok I'm sorry, that sounds pretty much official to me.
 
So they have an entire PZ Staff Group that is on a Discord, but its not official yet... Ok I'm sorry, that sounds pretty much official to me.
No the staff group is official but there's another one for everyone that is unofficial
 
They both essentially do the same thing, but here is why Discord is better :D mostly just summing up what you guys have said and throwing in some of my own opinions.

  • Discord is more popular amongst new members and is easier to use/understand
  • Discord is free to manage while Teamspeak costs money (According to your messages above, it's not cheap either)
  • If you learn how to use it and set it up correctly, it is a much more powerful and smooth program than Teamspeak, and Discord looks so much neater too ;)

That's all I've got so far, overall though, Discord is better in my opinion. This transition should be made sooner than later, the server should save its money and dispense it where it needs it. This is an unnecessary money dump, and in terms of the server its quite a bit too.

Once you use it a couple times, or even just one time it’s pretty simple.

Teamspeak doesn’t cost that much money in the eyes of PZ. Literally one elite purchase covers it.

One point is that the discord would be completely text-channel based, while not many people would use the voice channels. Teamspeak is just all around better for voice channels. If you really want a discord there’s the unofficial one.

I don't think they'll remove TeamSpeak and replace it with Discord.

I’d be fine if they added a discord, but I don’t want them to replace the teamspeak, as the title states.
 
The official one is used by staff, some staff are on the unofficial discord.
The official Discord? I'm confused. There is only one Discord correct?
 
PZ itself is definitely looking at Discord as a switch. Its been brought up in meetings but cant be changed either way till the TeamSpeak contract runs out in June/July. So we will have to see, personally, I don't mind either

I Would Happily Switch Over To Discord (And As I Already Own Discord) Its Much Easier To Use Discord And It Would Be Nice For A Change That A Server With This Much People On To Have A Discord Server, Although Maybe PZ Should Stick With Teamspeak Aswell But As _LaserKiller3000_ The Contract Runs Out In June/July So We Will Have To Wait And See But, I Would Like To See A Change Within The Server.



Thanks For Reading
 
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I Would Happily Switch Over To Discord As The PZ Owner (Gaurav1234) (And As I Already Own Discord) Its Much Easier To Use Then Discord And It Would Be Nice For A Change That A Server With This Much People On To Have A Discord Server, Although Maybe PZ Should Stick With Teamspeak Aswell But As _LaserKiller3000_ The Contract Runs Out In June/July So We Will Have To Wait And See.
Discord might be easier to use for people who are new to discord, but once you use TS a couple times it’s pretty simple.
 
There are two discords. The staff discord, which is only for PZ staff. And an unofficial discord created by members of the community.
Ahhhh, now I see. I'm not the most active community wise sorry for not understandin lol
 
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hi, i feel like typing a lot and i found this thread and now i have a reason to type. im going to respond to almost every point on here so be ready
Here are some reasons why there should be a Teamspeak:

- TeamSpeak's voice and muted chats are much better set up. There would need to be a new text channel created with each voice channel.

- TeamSpeak isn't as hard to moderate as Discord. Think about it: 50-100+ people every day having long text conversations compared to voice conversations with limited text moderation.

1. uh?? lol no. you don't need a new text channel for every voice channel, that's absurd. maybe it's a lack of voice chat experience, or just not knowing how discord works but i'd recommend downloading it to see for yourself. most servers have a dedicated text chat made for voice channels. additionally, you can obviously mute channels and other members. maybe i misinterpreted it, but yeah.

2. if you have ever moderated a discord properly, then you'll know the most useful tools on the planet. these are known as dyno, tatsumaki, and mee6. they're bots that moderate chat for you. you can filter swear words, mass prune messages, monitor each and every action a user takes, keep track of warnings, and customize them to your needs. theyre easy to set up, and make everything much easier. plus, text channels won't EVER be as active as you think. unless you literally have 30,000 people in your server, then you won't ever have to moderate chat 25/8. PZ has roughly 400 active members, and only 1/4 will join the discord. i know this from personal experience. numerous servers ive created, been staff on, and help run, work like this. maybe once in a while you'll get people who raid the server, but with the huge staff team here half full of middle schoolers and freshmen who have way too much time on their hands then they'll get to it instantly.

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it’s just easier to manage (maybe not to set up but it is when you’ve got the hang of it). Although it does need money to keep it up, let’s be honest, it’s more professional looking and looks cleaner for a network. A discord would be harder because it would just be weird to talk and type in a zone that matches it (i.e. speaking in a murder zone and if you can’t speak typing in a murder zone so it’s not all over the place in the main zone).

1. bots do management, it's easier to set up, everything is straight forward. im going to guess and say you've never managed a discord or teamspeak, so you wouldn't really know how to manage it.

2. each to their own i guess, but i dont think the 2008 theme of TS3 is professional and cleaner looking when compared to discord. with categories introduced, everything looks much cleaner and far more condensed.
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3. honestly dont even have an argument for that since its purely opinion based. i mean, i disagree, but /shrug.

Teamspeak doesn’t cost that much money in the eyes of PZ. Literally one elite purchase covers it.

One point is that the discord would be completely text-channel based, while not many people would use the voice channels. Teamspeak is just all around better for voice channels. If you really want a discord there’s the unofficial one.

1. okay but that one elite purchase is a decent amount of money that can pay a decent chunk of a dev's paycheck, or can buy a whole plugin, build, etc. it can benefit the server far more than you think. it's not a lot considering the thousands PZ has gained, but the server has also been tanking recently.

2. why wouldn't people use the voice channels? i don't see that much of a difference between the two. discord is a lot more text based than teamspeak, but it's also equally as voice based. i could argue that the VC aspects are better for numerous reasons, such as easy to use bots, better quality, bitrate selection, volume adjustments, no pokes (because literally nobody likes being poked 80 times in a row), and less annoying leave/join messages. the text channels make for more instant server announcements with @everyone/@here, as some people don't read the homepage at all (due to the fault of xenforo, imo).

3. some people, myself included, would much rather have a discord that's run by the actual owners, rather than regular members. it's more professional if it's official, more reliable, and favouritism doesn't have a role. if i join an unofficial discord, i have a strong feeling i'll see a group of buddies who run it, or get priority roles/perks. even if that isn't the case, i honestly don't really care to join and find out. especially because there are multiple.


more benefits to discord:
-cooler customization
-dont need an IP to join
-can easily switch between servers
-can DM people individually
-free for server setups
-easy to use
-everyone is switching to discord
-free for mobile

okay im done bye
 
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