Rejected The Staff Age Requirement

[ClockworkFlips]

I personally believe that the Staff Age Requirement should be moved up a year, maybe even two but that's stretching it. Here's why:

The older players are, the more mature they are. I myself learned that a year and a half can make a huge difference, HUGE, like you wouldn't believe, on ones characteristics and maturity. I'm not going to blindly say all 13 year olds and prepubescent immature little children, because they aren't. There are some that are more mature than others. But even those few are still not quite as mature as they should need to be to become a staff member on this server. This server takes things quite seriously when it comes to becoming a staff member, it takes things seriously in terms of anything that has to do with staff. Having 13 year olds as staff members, it just seems far too young to me. I believe 14 is a good age requirement for players to become staff members. Tell me what ya'll think

 

[Unstitched]

Players who are 13+ don't instantly get accepted based on age, it's just there to reduce the pool of applications. People are chosen to be staff based on a number of independent factors, age isn't one of them as long as you're over 13 years old.

13 is also the legally okay area for staff members, any lower and you get potential issues regarding things such as the COPPA act.

 

[ClockworkFlips]

Players who are 13+ don't instantly get accepted based on age, it's just there to reduce the pool of applications. People are chosen to be staff based on a number of independent factors, age isn't one of them as long as you're over 13 years old.

13 is also the legally okay area for staff members, any lower and you get potential issues regarding things such as the COPPA act.

Well i haven't seen many staff members who are 13, or any if I really give it some thought, maybe theres been a few, but raising the requirement eliminates an entire age group of applications and increases efficiency in the process as you will automatically be factoring out any less mature people who are most likely not going to get accepted.

 

[ABennn]

Well i haven't seen many staff members who are 13, or any if I really give it some thought, maybe theres been a few, but raising the requirement eliminates an entire age group of applications and increases efficiency in the process as you will automatically be factoring out any less mature people who are most likely not going to get accepted.

Lots of staff members start out as 13. But they remain staff for 1-2 years and they, well, get older. People can be mature at any age, 13 is a more common age that people can become more capable of moderating this server.


I do see your reasoning behind this suggestion, so I will remain neutral for now.

 

[ClockworkFlips]

As someone who is 13, I feel like I really need to step in. The application process is based on maturity, not the age of the applicant.

There could be numerous reasons why most staff aren't 13 years old. There is the possibility that there are just simply more people applying over the age of 13.

This is because there are multiple age groups. If you get rid of an age group (ex. age 13), sure it will be a little more efficient, but it will only filter out a small group of people.

Adding on to this, if somebody is older than someone else, that does not equal maturity. Someone who is 15 may be less mature than someone who is 12; it really depends on the situation.

That is why I really have to disagree with this suggestion. I can understand your reasoning, but I do not agree with it.

Maturity comes with age. You aren't born with the maturity of an adult or something, it comes with age. Yes there could be more people applying over the age of 13, but that just means people who tend to be more mature are taking shots at becoming staff.

Yes it will be more efficient and it will filter out quite a bit of applications, I would actually like to see how current staff members respond to this before debating people just for some insight because they tend to drop some facts which I may not have thought about.

If someone is 15, it is possible that they aren't as mature as a 12 year old, it is possible yes, but... maturity comes with age. A 3 year difference... I'm pretty sure the 15 year old would be more mature.

That's fine that you don't agree with it, thats how suggestions tend to go. I haven't seen you before, hello

Lots of staff members start out as 13. But they remain staff for 1-2 years and they, well, get older. People can be mature at any age, 13 is a more common age that people can become more capable of moderating this server.


I do see your reasoning behind this suggestion, so I will remain neutral for now.

The older you are, the more mature you tend to be. That goes for everyone. Regardless of when you go through the maturity process, if you are 12 or if you are 15, you will always go up on the maturity spectrum. So this is one of the main reasons I see why raising the age requirement should happen. Thanks for the input.

 

[Twixela]

I see what you mean, but staff don't just look for their age. It depends on their maturity and what they can do to make the server a better one. Age doesn't matter really, its only 13 because that's when MOST teenagers mature.

 

[ArrayLists]

I have mixed opinions, so here it goes.

People can be mature at any age

I see what you mean, but staff don't just look for their age. It depends on their maturity and what they can do to make the server a better one. Age doesn't matter really, its only 13 because that's when MOST teenagers mature.

Not all the time.

As someone who is 13, I feel like I really need to step in. The application process is based on maturity, not the age of the applicant.

There could be numerous reasons why most staff aren't 13 years old. There is the possibility that there are just simply more people applying over the age of 13.

This is because there are multiple age groups. If you get rid of an age group (ex. age 13), sure it will be a little more efficient, but it will only filter out a small group of people.

Adding on to this, if somebody is older than someone else, that does not equal maturity. Someone who is 15 may be less mature than someone who is 12; it really depends on the situation.

That is why I really have to disagree with this suggestion. I can understand your reasoning, but I do not agree with it.

If the application is based on maturity, why is there a requirement for age? Surely, there would be a long list of requirements if it was based on maturity. It is rare to find someone of younger age to be more mature, compared to someone older. However, you are right about the fact that it depends on the situation as I state below.

Maturity comes with age. You aren't born with the maturity of an adult or something, it comes with age. Yes there could be more people applying over the age of 13, but that just means people who tend to be more mature are taking shots at becoming staff.

Yes it will be more efficient and it will filter out quite a bit of applications, I would actually like to see how current staff members respond to this before debating people just for some insight because they tend to drop some facts which I may not have thought about.

If someone is 15, it is possible that they aren't as mature as a 12 year old, it is possible yes, but... maturity comes with age. A 3 year difference... I'm pretty sure the 15 year old would be more mature.

That's fine that you don't agree with it, thats how suggestions tend to go. I haven't seen you before, hello



The older you are, the more mature you tend to be. That goes for everyone. Regardless of when you go through the maturity process, if you are 12 or if you are 15, you will always go up on the maturity spectrum. So this is one of the main reasons I see why raising the age requirement should happen. Thanks for the input.

Yes you are right that maturity comes with age. Now, maturity starts based on their family background, gender and other things. Some people may be more mature than others. I understand that you want to raise the age requirement, I feel that is completely fine. But I wouldn't raise it.

TL;DR; Leave the age requirements be, don't lower it, don't raise it, don't remove it.

 

[EphermalWisdoms]

Maturity comes with age. You aren't born with the maturity of an adult or something, it comes with age. Yes there could be more people applying over the age of 13, but that just means people who tend to be more mature are taking shots at becoming staff.

Maturity does definitely not come with age I feel I just needed to say this because there are some 11-12 year old kids that I've met that are more mature than me

 

[ClockworkFlips]

Maturity does definitely not come with age I feel I just needed to say this because there are some 11-12 year old kids that I've met that are more mature than me

Maturity 100% comes with age. You can be more mature than someone else, but the older you are, the more mature you are. You can't go backwards. Maybe a 12 year old is more mature than a 14 year old, wow ok. But the majority of scenarios will not have those results

 

[Timelord]

Age is not only for maturity. It is also there for many other reasons such as responsibility, respect, and self and other thinking. Maturity has a age range yet people change over time and they might be mature at 13 but not at 14. I think it should rise at most a year because 13 is the most commom age where they start yet they have only started and are not yet there.

I would like to have the age limit to 18 or 16 because that is where most of them are mature and all that other adulthood stuff. Yet that is a unrealistic set age.

 

[ClockworkFlips]

Age is not only for maturity. It is also there for many other reasons such as responsibility, respect, and self and other thinking. Maturity has a age range yet people change over time and they might be mature at 13 but not at 14. I think it should rise at most a year because 13 is the most commom age where they start yet they have only started and are not yet there.

I would like to have the age limit to 18 or 16 because that is where most of them are mature and all that other adulthood stuff. Yet that is a unrealistic set age.

Everytime I see your name I feel like complimenting you. What a good name. I agree with what you just said, I just think the older the better basically. Thanks for the input

 

[Amoreo]

I understand where you're coming from with how age can define a person, but more often than not it doesn't. There are people who are 20 and can be less responsible, immature and can't comprehend certain thing. The application does not focus on the age for say but who the person is and how likely they will act. No one can be fit into a certain "age group" Correctly. Therefore I see no issue, although that's a personal thought. Including this, you cannot say a 13 year old wouldn't be mature or responsible as some of the requirements and questions include them being able to be responsible, more often than not they are able to tell who is mature and who isn't, there should be no need for age to define the applicant, but fore say the legality aspect as Sean mentioned up there. I think this argument is just because of prejudice that we define everyone under 15 immature people on minecraft raging about things and not human beings capable of human thought.

 

[ClockworkFlips]

I understand where you're coming from with how age can define a person, but more often than not it doesn't. There are people who are 20 and can be less responsible, immature and can't comprehend certain thing. The application does not focus on the age for say but who the person is and how likely they will act. No one can be fit into a certain "age group" Correctly. Therefore I see no issue, although that's a personal thought. Including this, you cannot say a 13 year old wouldn't be mature or responsible as some of the requirements and questions include them being able to be responsible, more often than not they are able to tell who is mature and who isn't, there should be no need for age to define the applicant, but fore say the legality aspect as Sean mentioned up there. I think this argument is just because of prejudice that we define everyone under 15 immature people on minecraft raging about things and not human beings capable of human thought.

I think that comparing one person to the other is dumb in this sense. Everyone has their own life. And as they get older, the get more mature. It can be at whatever pace it takes, but the older they are, the more mature they will be. This will cut down on unnecessary applications which will most likely be denied.

 

[SilverBlade]

With humans there can be 2 sets of ages. Our Physical age and our mental age. Some people may have there physical and mental ages roughly the same but majority don't. We can't pick and choose our mental age. It just depends on how you grew up, how you where treated, and other things like that. I do see both points of views, and both have great reasoning, just thought I should add some quick and simple input.

 

[ClockworkFlips]

With humans there can be 2 sets of ages. Our Physical age and our mental age. Some people may have there physical and mental ages roughly the same but majority don't. We can't pick and choose our mental age. It just depends on how you grew up, how you where treated, and other things like that. I do see both points of views, and both have great reasoning, just thought I should add some quick and simple input.

Yes but regardless of your physical and mental ages, as you call them, regardless of them being separate, they will still always go up. It doesn't matter which one you refer to or how many different "ages" you split this down into, they will always go up. You don't get less mature over getting older. Physically or mentally. You can only go up, and being a year older, regardless of who you are, will have an affect on how mature you are. There is no point in your life, where you can look back at yourself from a year ago and think about how much more mature you WERE, because you were always less mature. You can only go up. And the higher the limit is, the less applications that will be put in.

 

[SilverBlade]

Yes but regardless of your physical and mental ages, as you call them, regardless of them being separate, they will still always go up. It doesn't matter which one you refer to or how many different "ages" you split this down into, they will always go up. You don't get less mature over getting older. Physically or mentally. You can only go up, and being a year older, regardless of who you are, will have an affect on how mature you are. There is no point in your life, where you can look back at yourself from a year ago and think about how much more mature you WERE, because you were always less mature. You can only go up. And the higher the limit is, the less applications that will be put in.

some things can cause that change. You can become less mature. I mean myself, I've had times where I'm less mature one year and the next I'm super mature, only to become less mature. It just depends on time itself. People can also stay at the same mental age. Like my aunt who is 18 years old but her mental age has always been 10 (once past that physical age). It depends on the person, you may not be like that but everyone's different and that's what we need to accept.

 

[ClockworkFlips]

some things can cause that change. You can become less mature. I mean myself, I've had times where I'm less mature one year and the next I'm super mature, only to become less mature. It just depends on time itself. People can also stay at the same mental age. Like my aunt who is 18 years old but her mental age has always been 10 (once past that physical age). It depends on the person, you may not be like that but everyone's different and that's what we need to accept.

Accept? This isn't about acceptance... you literally can't become less mature over age unless you have a condition related to that, a mental condition. I did my research on this topic before, the only way is forward. The only way is up. You may feel differently, but in the end, with another year of life, you gain key concepts like responsibility and respect, like TimeLord said above. You can't go backwards and if you really believe so I encourage you to read about this online.

 

[MeAndAon]

Everyone, hide your voice cracks! I agree on this, but I think the staff team reviews who they're going to promote wisely. I'm pretty sure they'll check up on the person who's applied and make sure they're up to the maturity standard. (Plus you need to have a bunch of forum posts before you can be promoted, they also probably judge according to that).

 

[SophieDrinksTea]

Thank you for your suggestion. However after thorough review, the team has decided this will not be implemented.

Staff members are chosen based on the qualities they present in their applications, and not based on age assuming that the minimum age requirement is met. There have been many successful staff members from all currently accepted age groups, and as of now the current age limit will remain at 13. If you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me via private message.