Survival Survival for everyone

glcssiers said:
I understand that but im not willing to pay over 100$ on a server just for world edit or even a elite only survival, my point is that ive liked survival on different servers and it would be nice to put on mcpz as i like the server so much. The block part isn’t lazy, I created the forum as i asked for survival i’d play survival like any other individual, not asking for blocks but a simple vanilla minecraft. getting the blocks yourself and being creative. My point with the building part was that it would be difficult to gather blocks and it would take longer.
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It is a perk... for ELITES. A lot of people play ES and if you got rid of it and replaced it with survival, what many people want to have, which is why they buy elite ... the server isn't going to have the money to do all this cool stuff which you want for it to do. Because people will stop BUYING IT
glcssiers said:
I understand that but im not willing to pay over 100$ on a server just for world edit or even a elite only survival, my point is that ive liked survival on different servers and it would be nice to put on mcpz as i like the server so much. The block part isn’t lazy, I created the forum as i asked for survival i’d play survival like any other individual, not asking for blocks but a simple vanilla minecraft. getting the blocks yourself and being creative. My point with the building part was that it would be difficult to gather blocks and it would take longer.
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It would be difficult gathering blocks, same as ES... but it is a SURVIVAL.... you have to survive by getting blocks and minerals to live. And if you like survival so much, but don't want to pay 100$ just wait for a sale… or ask someone to buy it for you... or participate in a giveaway... honestly it isn't that hard! As all of this negative input I rate this a -1

Plus, if you say elites only bought elite for w/e guess what? Who CARES. Elites are under-perked and this is the only thing stopping elite from becoming a vip… because vip are OVERPERKED. And many people agree on that.
 
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KawaiiW said:
It is a perk... for ELITES. A lot of people play ES and if you got rid of it and replaced it with survival, what many people want to have, which is why they buy elite ... the server isn't going to have the money to do all this cool stuff which you want for it to do. Because people will stop BUYING IT


It would be difficult gathering blocks, same as ES... but it is a SURVIVAL.... you have to survive by getting blocks and minerals to live. And if you like survival so much, but don't want to pay 100$ just wait for a sale… or ask someone to buy it for you... or participate in a giveaway... honestly it isn't that hard! As all of this negative input I rate this a -1

Plus, if you say elites only bought elite for w/e guess what? Who CARES. Elites are under-perked and this is the only thing stopping elite from becoming a vip… because vip are OVERPERKED. And many people agree on that.
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ELITE is not underperked, add the + and you are so correct.
 
KawaiiW said:
Let's make a compromise, both of them are. XD
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I think you have a misconception, ELITE is not underperked because W/E is worth alot, also those 8 plots are good value, ELITE+ is double the price and only has like 3 more perks, 2 more plots, more useless commands and emotes, who even uses emotes, like it's just bad.
 
Pqndar said:
I think you have a misconception, ELITE is not underperked because W/E is worth alot, also those 8 plots are good value, ELITE+ is double the price and only has like 3 more perks, 2 more plots, more useless commands and emotes, who even uses emotes, like it's just bad.
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No, no I got it right the first time. Elite is under-perked and so is Elite+ but I forgot this last lil' bit, compared to VIP.
 
KawaiiW said:
No, no I got it right the first time. Elite is under-perked and so is Elite+ but I forgot this last lil' bit, compared to VIP.
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VIP is overpriced, it's worth it.

VIP
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ELITE+
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Not really, this is just creative perks as this is kind of the only thing people play.
 
Pqndar said:
VIP is overpriced, it's worth it.

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Not really, this is just creative perks as this is kind of the only thing people play.
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Vip is, if you look at them compared to elite, not very much a difference except for plots which vip can easily have friends and ask for plots... Plus, I said overall not for just creative! [Oppsie Doopsy] I meant vip+ is overperked

Here are THEIR commands
VIP+ Rank


The VIP+ rank is a Lifetime rank, meaning you will never have to pay for this same rank again. Some of the perks our VIP+s receive are...

Network Wide Perks:

  • Make your name at the top of the tab list so you'll always been seen.
  • Exclusive bold and colorful VIP+ tag in chat and in tab.
  • Make your messages stand out with white chat!
  • Ability to apply for staff such as helper.
  • Ability to have unlimited friends
  • Have up to 8 people to in a party.
  • Beta test our upcoming games before they are released and provide feedback!
  • Access to VIP+ only gadgets, clothing, and hats!
  • Join the VIP reserved slots in all of the games.
  • Access to the Premium Channels in TeamSpeak!
  • Ability to use voice activation in TeamSpeak instead of Push to Talk
  • Access to the /fly command in main lobbies.
  • Ability to spectate games that are in progress. (Coming Soon)
Creative Server Perks

  • 5 additonal plots in our creative server
  • Join the VIP reserved slots in creative
  • Ability to change welcome message on your plots
  • Ability to wear any item as a hat in creative
  • Access to /speed in creative
  • Access to /glow in creative (must be in 1.9+ to see!)
  • Access to merge plots up to 2x2!
  • Access to use color codes on signs
  • Access to /rainbow armor!
  • Access to /rename your items with color codes!
  • Access to /banner to easily make custom banners!
  • Access to /armorcolor to easily make custom colored armor!
  • Access to /secretblocks to use secret blocks for building!


ELITE Rank


The ELITE rank is a Lifetime rank, meaning you will never have to pay for this same rank again. Some of the perks our ELITEs receive are...

Network Wide Perks:

  • Make your name at the top of the tab list so you'll always been seen.
  • Access to the exclusive Elite survival server for staff and other Elites
  • Exclusive bold and colorful ELITE tag in chat and in tab.
  • Make your messages stand out with white chat!
  • Ability to apply for staff such as helper.
  • Ability to have unlimited friends
  • Have up to 12 people to in a party.
  • Alpha test our upcoming games before they are released and provide feedback!
  • Access to Elite only gadgets, clothing, and hats!
  • Join the VIP reserved slots in all of the games.
  • Access to the Premium Channels in TeamSpeak!
  • Ability to use voice activation in TeamSpeak instead of Push to Talk
  • Access to the /fly command in main lobbies.
  • Ability to spectate games that are in progress. (Coming Soon)
Creative Server Perks:

  • 7 additonal plots in our creative server
  • Join the VIP reserved slots in creative
  • Basic worldedit commands such as //set
  • Ability to change welcome message on your plots
  • Ability to wear any item as a hat in creative
  • Access to /speed in creative
  • Access to /glow in creative (must be in 1.9+ to see!)
  • Access to merge plots up to 2x2!
  • Access to use color codes on signs
  • Access to /rainbow armor!
  • Access to /rename your items with color codes!
  • Access to /banner to easily make custom banners!
  • Access to /armorcolor to easily make custom colored armor!
  • Access to /secretblocks to use secret blocks for building!
Minigame Perks:

  • Access to Elite only cosmetics in our minigames
  • 10 extra hats in murder to unlock!
Plus all perks of the previous ranks!
ELITE+ Rank


The ELITE+ rank is a Lifetime rank, meaning you will never have to pay for this same rank again. Some of the perks our ELITE+s receive are...

Network Wide Perks:

  • Make your name at the top of the tab list so you'll always been seen.
  • Access to the exclusive Elite survival server for staff and other Elites
  • Exclusive bold and colorful ELITE tag in chat and in tab.
  • Make your messages stand out with white chat!
  • Ability to apply for staff such as helper.
  • Ability to have unlimited friends
  • Have up to 30 people to in a party.
  • Alpha test our upcoming games before they are released and provide feedback!
  • Access to Elite only gadgets, clothing, and hats!
  • Join the VIP reserved slots in all of the games.
  • Access to the Premium Channels in TeamSpeak!
  • Ability to use voice activation in TeamSpeak instead of Push to Talk
  • Access to the /fly command in main lobbies.
  • Ability to change the color of your + sign!
  • Ability to spectate games that are in progress. (Coming Soon)
Creative Server Perks:

  • 9 additonal plots in our creative server
  • Join the VIP reserved slots in creative
  • Basic worldedit commands such as //set
  • Advanced worldedit commands such a //copy,//paste, and brushes
  • Ability to change welcome message on your plots
  • Ability to wear any item as a hat in creative
  • Access to /speed in creative
  • Access to /glow in creative (must be in 1.9+ to see!)
  • Access to merge plots up to 2x2!
  • Access to use color codes on signs
  • Access to /rainbow armor!
  • Access to /rename your items with color codes!
  • Access to /banner to easily make custom banners!
  • Access to /armorcolor to easily make custom colored armor!
  • Access to /secretblocks to use secret blocks for building!
  • Access to /plot title and /plot subtitle to show custom full-screen messages when players enter your plots!
  • Access to the following /trails:
    • Heart
    • Angry
    • Magic
    • Fun
    • Cloud
    • Witch
    • Ender
    • Spark
Minigame Perks:

  • Access to Elite+ only cosmetics in our minigames
  • Entry to your name in murder!
  • 10 extra hats in murder to unlock!
Plus all perks of the previous ranks!
 
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KawaiiW said:
Vip is, if you look at them compared to elite, not very much a difference except for plots which vip can easily have friends and ask for plots... Plus, I said overall not for just creative!
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Yeah, it's not how many, it's what the perk is, overall is irrelevant as no one plays anything else.
 
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Pqndar said:
you did not buy Elite just for survival, you got it for W/E
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this is so true and makes me support this girl's thread tbh <3
 
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both of y'all need to get over yourselves. you're taking opinions and suggestions too personally when you should be trying to find a happy medium that you can both agree on. being passive aggressive or spamming ratings or whatever you're both doing isn't helping the server, the suggestion, or yourselves. stop being petty and taking suggestions/opinions to heart and treating them like they're personal attacks.
 
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I completely understand where everyone is coming from, with the “no one uses ES anyway.” But either way, that isn’t the most accurate statement. Although it doesn’t have a very good player count, I very rarely see 0 players on it, and if there is, it’s usually very early GMT, when very little are even on the network as a whole.
Its got consistent visitors, maybe not the 24/7 active kind, but they do often play there.
Even though major reasons for others getting ELITE is W/E, that doesn’t make taking away one of the largest perks of the rank with absolutely no perks to fill that void, any better. It is an extremely large perk to be getting rid of, and practically making W/E the only decent and well used perk that people have constant access to. I can see his being opened publicly in the future, when there is actually room to add decent perks that will balance the rank. I just don’t think taking away such a big perk is a good idea for the moment. I hope you can understand that view.
For now I’ll be voting -1, unless a very strong argument is brought on.
 
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I actually really like this suggestion but I'm going to add on to it as there are some minor issues.

First of all, blocks should not just be given out for free. I've seen in other servers that when you do /vote you gain coins which allow you to buy blocks in the shop. The blocks would all have different prices depending on the difficulty to obtain them or the rarity of the specific blocks. The coins used to buy these blocks would have to be specific to Survival as it would be unfair for players to gain lots of coins in Murder and then use it for Survival without spending any time in Survival. Of course, first time players should get a small starter pack which would include:

- A small amount of coins (1,000 or so)
- Basic Wooden Tools
- A guide
- Claiming block (of 25x25x25 blocks)

Another point is that adding Survival generally would completely devalue Elite survival as they would be almost exactly the same. A way to revalue Elite survival would be (some of these advantages would only be available to gain in Elite Survival but would still be accessible in normal Elite, ones which aren't available in normal Survival are marked with a *):

- To gain more than double the coins for doing /vote
- To gain more experience
- A better starter pack
  • Diamond Tools *
  • A guide
  • Claiming block (of 75x75x75 blocks) *
  • 10,000 coins *
- The ability to set warps in Elite Survival *
- The ability to create guilds in Elite Survival *
- Blocks in Elite Survival are cheaper in the shop *
- Rare blocks become more common *

The previous perks mentioned significantly revalue Elite Survival as when gained in Elite Survival can be used in both worlds. If these perks were to be added to the suggestion, then I will vote +1 otherwise for now, -1
 
I feel like this should be brought up

Moderation of Survival

Ok. Lets see here. The staff spend most of their time in Creative, and the hubs. Sometimes hop into murder games.

If we add Survival to everyone, that would leave 3 places to heavily Moderate AND. New users might not know about the rules in Survival. (Like no Griefing!)
 
If I recall correctly, Survival was only initially open to Elites to discover any bugs in the game. If everyone played at the point then it would pretty much break. However I think most of those bugs are fixed. I mean, most people only play Creative and Murder. Survival should probably be open to everyone to balance out players on the network.

I find it pretty stupid though. PZ has the option to open minigames to the entire playerbase, they don't do that, and then they complain about not having enough players in each game.
 
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