Rejected Removing I disagree button

[Timelord]

So through this year and some of last year the I disagree button usage has gone up so much... If you look back at any old threads you almost never see a I disagree used. I don't know when it was implemented but in today's server its used too often. In some cases I would agree its genually a reasonable disagree. Yet the fact its used so much and its just as much used as a dislike button Im suggesting to remove it.

Reasons why...
1. The button has almost no use to it. Only two cases it can be useful A to say I disagree or B to see if the opinion is popular or not.

A can be simply done by either don't implement in suggestions or reply and stating you disagree.

B is alright yet maybe the unpopular comment is still helpful and might miss some helpful information even if it is long. In some cases it is some it isn't.

2. It over used and very bothering to see in spam form.

3. It spread more hate than being useful. Its a kids server and some kids are very emotional even if its a silly old button. It also been very well known to be used as a dislike button instead of a respectful I disagree button.
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I created this thread as I am a bit sick of this button as there has been too much use of this button. I rather not be spammed by 30 notifications instead of the actual information why they disagree.
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Or my second suggestion is limiting a person to recieve 3 or 4 disagrees a day either by notification or just limited to recieving 3 or 4 from anybody.

 

[sweeteaa]

The "I Disagree" button is there to show how many people disagree with your idea/thought. I think it's not a good idea that you remove it since it shows the agreeing side to the disagreeing side and you can always ask the user why they disagree with you.

-1

 

[Aminuh]

The button is useful to express that you simply disagree, not everybody that disagrees with you or that rates posts as “don’t implement” (merely an example), is obligated to type out why they disagree or dislike the said idea, it sure would be nice, it’s simple and effective in my own opinion.

Overall I see a personal gain rather than a community gain

-1

 

[Timelord]

The "I Disagree" button is there to show how many people disagree with your idea/thought. I think it's not a good idea that you remove it since it shows the agreeing side to the disagreeing side and you can always ask the user why they disagree with you.

-1

There is no agree button... How does the disagree button help though? Just because its not popular doesn't mean its the wrong way to go or to take a look at and decide on your own. No need to take it upon how others view other but how you view it.

The button is useful to express that you simply disagree, not everybody that disagrees with you or that rates posts as “don’t implement” (merely an example), is obligated to type out why they disagree or dislike the said idea, it sure would be nice, it’s simple and effective in my own opinion.

Overall I see a personal gain rather than a community gain

-1

Again why do I have to be spammed by 10 disagrees? my suggestion is A either get rid of it because it has no purpose or B at least stop the spam.

And personal gain seriously heck to the no. Please don't take me as a idiot its a bit of a insult. I been thinking about it ever since haters came on board. Only now that a whole thread is covered in disagrees to the uncommon opinion is just wrong. The more you think about it as well everyone could just put a I disagree to every opinion they see disagreeable which is just too much. This is why its unneeded, everyone can disagree and having a button for it isn't needed. Like be real here If you really cared about the opinion instead post about it if not then leave it alone no need to use a button that just says what you would say in your post.

 

[just a person]

btw you can report people for spamming disagrees

 

[Timelord]

btw you can report people for spamming disagrees

I know that, done it several times lol fun times mate fun times...
But my point is why have a disagree button when people are generally going to disagree with someone else? The don't implement command is useful because they give community vote on what they want. In other places on the forum it might be useable but in those places its unnessacy to know how many disagree unless its like a art piece that wants to know who likes it or doesn't.

 

[sweeteaa]

There is no agree button... How does the disagree button help though? Just because its not popular doesn't mean its the wrong way to go or to take a look at and decide on your own. No need to take it upon how others view other but how you view it.

If the player rates your post "Should Implement" or clicks the "Like" or "Love" button it usually means, "I think this is a great idea!" or "I love how your thinking!" it isn't exactly "I Agree" but it's along the lines of it. Everyone has their own opinion on things, if they don't like your idea or is against it, that's their side / POV of it. There is no need to be concerned with that, as the person is basically saying "I'm thinking differently than you."
As @Katifye also said, you can report abuse/spamming of "I Disagree"s on their profile by clicking "Report."
I don't wanna expose or anything, but I think it's because this is what happened on the "/history" thread:

Just going to point it out but was it really nessacary to spam I disagree on all my posts... like come on 1 notification is enough

 

[Timelord]

If the player rates your post "Should Implement" or clicks the "Like" or "Love" button it usually means, "I think this is a great idea!" or "I love how your thinking!" it isn't exactly "I Agree" but it's along the lines of it. Everyone has their own opinion on things, if they don't like your idea or is against it, that's their side / POV of it. There is no need to be concerned with that, as the person is basically saying "I'm thinking differently than you."
As @Katifye also said, you can report abuse/spamming of "I Disagree"s on their profile by clicking "Report."

Ima just call it a night, simply put why do we need a button to say we disagree? likes and loves can be so many different things as like or love can me I like how you wrote that I enjoyed that, I disagree is just I disagree no way around it.

almost 11:30 pm im tired its been long day gn

 

[sweeteaa]

Ima just call it a night, simply put why do we need a button to say we disagree? likes and loves can be so many different things as like or love can me I like how you wrote that I enjoyed that, I disagree is just I disagree no way around it.

almost 11:30 pm im tired its been long day gn

You kinda answered your own question there bud, "We disagree, that's why there's an 'I Disagree' button."

 

[Timelord]

You kinda answered your own question there bud, "We disagree, that's why there's an 'I Disagree' button."

Boi between thy lines

 

[sweeteaa]

Boi between thy lines

I'm answering your question using bits of what you had said.

If you look back at any old threads you almost never see a I disagree used

That's because in the "old threads" many people didn't know what time it's exactly used for or they knew it would be called out for it. And if your talking "old old threads" that's because there was no 'I Disagree' button.

1. The button has almost no use to it. Only two cases it can be useful A to say I disagree or B to see if the opinion is popular or not.

"The "I Disagree" button is there to show how many people disagree with your idea/thought. I think it's not a good idea that you remove it since it shows the agreeing side to the disagreeing side and you can always ask the user why they disagree with you."

A can be simply done by either don't implement in suggestions or reply and stating you disagree.

"Don't Implement" is used for actual threads. "I Disagree" is usually used for comments, disagreeing with another thought/suggestion and having a different side/POV to it.

B is alright yet maybe the unpopular comment is still helpful and might miss some helpful information even if it is long. In some cases it is some it isn't.

I don't understand what you mean here. Can you explain what you mean by this?

2. It over used and very bothering to see in spam form.

If someone is over-using/spamming the "I Disagree" button report it and a staff member will look over your report. Maybe not right that second but they'll try to deal with it as soon as possible.

3. It spread more hate than being useful. Its a kids server and some kids are very emotional even if its a silly old button. It also been very well known to be used as a dislike button instead of a respectful I disagree button.

Spread more hate? It's just saying 'I have a different thought system than you.' It's also a *family-friendly server and if someone is emotional about something so small then they can always talk to someone about it or report it on the forums. This is honestly, to me, an excuse for removing the button.
Dislike= "I don't like your idea/comment."
Disagree= "I think differently than you do."

I created this thread as I am a bit sick of this button as there has been too much use of this button. I rather not be spammed by 30 notifications instead of the actual information why they disagree.

If you really are bothered by the spamming, I would PM a staff member about it and see what they can do. You've stated before that you've reported many times, then keep doing it.

Or my second suggestion is limiting a person to recieve 3 or 4 disagrees a day either by notification or just limited to recieving 3 or 4 from anybody.

Per post? Or per day?
If it's per post, won't really do you anything. If it's per day, that's just going to be aggravating, if you'd be using the disagree button too little or you're limited to it, what's the point of having it there anyway?

 

[Timelord]

I'm answering your question using bits of what you had said.

Again read between the lines...
Why have a button that shows we disagree? Because everyone at some point disagrees with a opinion. So why have a button saying what is already bound to happen? As well the agree side to the disagreeing side doesn't help anyone so don't see your point there...Everything else I have already answered.

 

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It also been very well known to be used as a dislike button instead of a respectful I disagree button.

 

[Unstitched]

It used to be "Meh". I liked "Meh" better as a neutral thing, but now it's "I Disagree" because people got tilted. The new title suggests that it should be used for disagreeing with posts.

If it's not to be used for disagreeing with comments, then it should be changed. If it is, then it should stay and people should chill out. Little reaction on a Minecraft server website = it's not that deep.

If you don't want to get alerted, you can disable reaction alerts in alert preferences.

 

[Timelord]

It used to be "Meh". I liked "Meh" better as a neutral thing, but now it's "I Disagree" because people got tilted. The new title suggests that it should be used for disagreeing with posts.

If it's not to be used for disagreeing with comments, then it should be changed. If it is, then it should stay and people should chill out. Little reaction on a Minecraft server website = it's not that deep.

If you don't want to get alerted, you can disable reaction alerts in alert preferences.

Ahh Meh ok thanks... My main point is that its not logical to have a I disagree button as there is mostly 2 sides and if both sides press the button it is just a worthless button that doesn't help anyone.

Thanks but I do like seeing reasonable likes or disagrees as when a person who isn't a like or disagree frenzy person it tells me there is a reason I should look at my post again and see why they disagree or like the post.

 

[chariisma]

Ahh Meh ok thanks... My main point is that its not logical to have a I disagree button as there is mostly 2 sides and if both sides press the button it is just a worthless button that doesn't help anyone.

Thanks but I do like seeing reasonable likes or disagrees as when a person who isn't a like or disagree frenzy person it tells me there is a reason I should look at my post again and see why they disagree or like the post.

The way you are explaining it, there shouldn't be a like or heart button either, because people can just reply with what they think. Not everyone will agree with you at times, and that is what it’s for. If people are spamming it, you can report them. I don’t see reasonable issues with the I Disagree button.

 

[Timelord]

The way you are explaining it, there shouldn't be a like or heart button either, because people can just reply with what they think. Not everyone will agree with you at times, and that is what it’s for. If people are spamming it, you can report them. I don’t see reasonable issues with the I Disagree button.

Like I will repeat is not a agree button. Always with a argumentative mind this server.

Like and love can be used for so many things disagree can only really be used to disagree. Everyone disagrees not everyone will like or love something. Disagree everyone will have a opinion.

 

[Cattt]

Like I will repeat is not a agree button. Always with a argumentative mind this server.

Like and love can be used for so many things disagree can only really be used to disagree. Everyone disagrees not everyone will like or love something. Disagree everyone will have a opinion.

I'm sorry but no one is arguing with you, everyone has their own opinions and as far as I can see everyone is respectfully disagreeing with your suggestion and points with valid explanations.

Besides that, I'm going to say this being implemented is not necessary.

"Reasons why...
1. The button has almost no use to it. Only two cases it can be useful A to say I disagree or B to see if the opinion is popular or not."

• This is invalid, this button actually serves a major purpose to the community. Players are allowed to state their opinion, this is just a tool to emphasize their opinion without having to explain (obviously it would be nicer to have an explanation, but some players may have already commented a similar contrast opinion and feel like it's just easier to use the button "I disagree").

"2. It over used and very bothering to see in spam form."

• Buttons such as "Like" or "Love" are also overused, does that mean we should rule out all buttons just because they're used? No. That is their main purpose, to be USED- regardless if that means they are "over" used.
• If you see someone spamming buttons, you may report as Katifye stated above and the player(s) will be dealt with. This, though, is not a valid point in the context of a suggestion since it can be resolved with the assistance of staff.

"3. It spread more hate than being useful. Its a kids server and some kids are very emotional even if its a silly old button. It also been very well known to be used as a dislike button instead of a respectful I disagree button."

• I don't see in any context or form how this button is spreading hate. It would be perhaps different if the button was "I hate this" or "Hate". It's politely saying that you simply do not agree with what someone stated.
• Yes, we are aware it is a server with a younger audience, but how does this contribute to your suggestion? I have yet to see someone get offended or hurt by someone using the button. You, yourself, just stated it's a "silly old" button, which is pretty contradictive compared to the image you've been giving it throughout your suggestion.

Overall, this suggestion should not be implemented because it is limiting the communities ability to express themselves and for the reasons I've stated above. -1

 

[Timelord]

Just made my point... I disagree with everyone else and people backlash. That one wit 6 had 3 or 4 before now it has 6 after i started to use the disagree and people call me childish. Seriously its just a disagree button. I disagree with what you stated.

As well this whole page is basuvally filled with I disagree. again my point is said is it really nessary to have a button that could fill the whole page?

 

[sweeteaa]

Like I will repeat is not a agree button. Always with a argumentative mind this server.

Like and love can be used for so many things disagree can only really be used to disagree. Everyone disagrees not everyone will like or love something. Disagree everyone will have a opinion.

You are the one who is making this argumentative over something that serves a major purpose when communicating in implementations of ideas and comments. The main reason we have an I Disagree button, like I said so many times, is because people have their point of view on the main idea. The fact that you’d like it to be removed is idiotic, and your not getting why we have an I Disagree button at all. I’m assuming your either trying to hard to argue with people or you are actually stating facts and politely trying to convince people.

I’d also like to point our you’re spamming “I Disagree’s” on the majority of my posts.