Feedback Redstone

[Glyphynx]

After the previous the update to the server, honestly I've been on and off about this. I've finally built up the courage to explain my frustrations.
Upon the previous update, almost any redstone contraptions are broken. Simple mechanics have been stripped away, and it feels like we are operating in 1.8 all over again. It seems that block updates no longer function normally, which violates simple redstone. Secondly, the removal of observer's functions eliminate almost any 1.12 circuitry.
It really feels like PZ has just removed any possibility for redstone beyond switching on the lights, and redstone has really lost its fun with these trials and tribulations.
Please reconsider the harsh regulations on redstone, that make it almost unusable.

 

[Nashi]

and it feels like we are operating in 1.8 all over again

I believe we do still support 1.8 clients which may be the reason for it. Many players prefer to play in 1.8 for one reason or another, I know I did for years because I just didn't like 1.11. If this is possible without switching to 1.9 and lagging the entire server, then yes I'll support this, if not then some changes need to be made to the suggestion.

 

[Hyrotis]

I think you are semi confused.. I believe Glyphynx isn't on about changing to 1.9 or anything he just feels that the server is no longer supporting redstone at all as no forms of redstone on the server are working at all apart from simply turning on or off lights. This is because of how they tackled observer blocks I believe. As block updates are broken as you can see in the screenshot above.

And the use of 1.8 on creative does baffle me as the only major difference between 1.12.2 and 1.8 is pvp and on a creative server pvp is irelevent. I suppose if you use 1.8 just for convenience on a different server and just so happen to use it on Mcpz then thats ok i guess but nothing is stopping people from chaging between 1.8 and 1.12.2 depending on which server they want to go on.

 

[Nashi]

I think you are semi confused.. I believe Glyphynx isn't on about changing to 1.9 or anything he just feels that the server is no longer supporting redstone at all as no forms of redstone on the server are working at all. This is because of how they tackled observer blocks I believe. As block updates are broken as you can see in the screenshot above.

Ah yes, I understand a bit more now. A lot of the things, example observers, have to not work because of compatibility issues. For example, 1.9 and above blocks are usually shown as bricks to players in lower versions. If a brick randomly started to produce a redstone signal, that wouldn't really make sense. Yes we could replace it with a different block, but the logistics of it wouldn't make sense. If there's a different way to do this without lagging the whole server or switching out of 1.8, then yeah I'll vote +1.

 

[The2GoldenSpoons]

I too noticed this, and want to complain. However, I see why observers aren’t useable, as you can create flying machines, set them off into other plots, which is a greif. However, +1

 

[Hyrotis]

Flying mechines are unable to change which plot they are on i do believe. They are unable to go past the slabs.