Murder Murder Mutation

[Aminuh]

In the Double Jump mutation, everyone could sprint, since that mutation was removed from Murder.

I propose we make a new mutation
“Everyone can run” in the place of Double Jump. The title is self explanatory.

Please leave your thoughts on this.

 

[ABerryyy]

In the Double Jump mutation, everyone could sprint, since that mutation was removed from Murder.

I propose we make a new mutation
“Everyone can run” in the place of Double Jump. The title is self explanatory.

These type of mutations are making things harder, for example the mutation will break and in normal games you will be able to sprint which is very likely to happen.
And everyone sprinting beats the purpouse of the game murder, because only the murder has a small advantage of being able to sprint and we shouldn't make all mutations which make it easier for bystanders and harder for the murder.
I think we should balance them because right now all mutations mostly support the bystander and adding this makes this alot harder for the murder.
And with previous instances these type of mutations are just very likely to break and mess the gameplay. -1

 

[Aminuh]

These type of mutations are making things harder, for example the mutation will break and in normal games you will be able to sprint which is very likely to happen.
And everyone sprinting beats the purpouse of the game murder, because only the murder has a small advantage of being able to sprint and we shouldn't make all mutations which make it easier for bystanders and harder for the murder.
I think we should balance them because right now all mutations mostly support the bystander and adding this makes this alot harder for the murder.
And with previous instances these type of mutations are just very likely to break and mess the gameplay. -1

First, it is entirely possible for this mutation to break, but it is possible for it go smoothly. We cannot predict that, if it breaks it can be removed like Double Jump and Speed were.

Mutations exist to make it a challenge on the opposing team, that is the point of mutations, as “Everyone gets a gun” is a challenge, and is still currently a mutation that hasn’t been removed.

If you really think about it, both the remaining mutations also beat the purpose of Murder, as that is the purpose of mutations.
“Everyone spawns with a gun”:
Original is 1 Gunman, other players must find emeralds to obtain one, or pick it off the ground.
“Double Emeralds”
To be completely honest this isn’t beating the purpose of Murder, but obviously the original game is just 1 Emerald per pick up. Though this can be a powerup option in the Murder store.

As a community people are welcomed to suggest more mutations to favor the Murderer, I don’t think this is a significant reason for this suggestion to not be imlemented.

Thank you for your opinion though.

 

[Jxliee]

I mean, if it was removed, there was obviously and issue, and well most likely not be added back for a while.

The gun game hasn’t broken any boundaries and is currently being discused else where.
Speed and double jump were abused and used to escape the map, reach places you normally can’t or shouldn’t without these perks.
Speed was used to parkour across the map and go out of boundaries and reach areas you shouldn’t reach, even with normal speed, as well as it had a good few issues. ( Such as it not working sometimes )
People who were genuinely innocent people who don’t usually break the rules did this, regardless of being told not to. I observed many people do it, and I doubt just because it gets reimplemented it won’t be abused this time again. It’s already happened once and technically twice if you include double jump, why risk it another time?

Yes we need plenty more mutations, but reimplementing mutations that were removed for specific issues should be avoided unless it’s insured it won’t happen again, which it hasn’t, yet.

I mean I loved speed myself, but even I saw how badly it was being abused. I did it once or twice by mistake because I forgot where the map limits were. ( eg. The mountain in temple. ) so, I’m gonna have to give it a -1.

 

[Aminuh]

I mean, if it was removed, there was obviously and issue, and well most likely not be added back for a while.

The gun game hasn’t broken any boundaries and is currently being discused else where.
Speed and double jump were abused and used to escape the map, reach places you normally can’t or shouldn’t without these perks.
Speed was used to parkour across the map and go out of boundaries and reach areas you shouldn’t reach, even with normal speed, as well as it had a good few issues. ( Such as it not working sometimes )
People who were genuinely innocent people who don’t usually break the rules did this, regardless of being told not to. I observed many people do it, and I doubt just because it gets reimplemented it won’t be abused this time again. It’s already happened once and technically twice if you include double jump, why risk it another time?

Yes we need plenty more mutations, but reimplementing mutations that were removed for specific issues should be avoided unless it’s insured it won’t happen again, which it hasn’t, yet.

I mean I loved speed myself, but even I saw how badly it was being abused. I did it once or twice by mistake because I forgot where the map limits were. ( eg. The mountain in temple. ) so, I’m gonna have to give it a -1.

I’m aware the gun game hasn’t broken any boundaries nor does double emeralds. I am not proposing to bring back Double Jump, Or Speed. My suggestion was sprinting.

If the murderer has sprint every game and does not exploit the boundaries in maps. I’m unsure how you think adding sprint (a feature in every game given to one pereon) would cause that. Maps are built to not be able to escape with barriers with sprinting.

Nothing is being reimplemented, Double Jump and Speed are 2 seperate mutations.

Thank you for your feedback though.

 

[Jxliee]

I’m aware the gun game hasn’t broken any boundaries nor does double emeralds. I am not proposing to bring back Double Jump, Or Speed. My suggestion was sprinting.

If the murderer has sprint every game and does not exploit the boundaries in maps. I’m unsure how you think adding sprint (a feature in every game given to one pereon) would cause that. Maps are built to not be able to escape with barriers with sprinting.

Nothing is being reimplemented, Double Jump and Speed are 2 seperate mutations.

Thank you for your feedback on the though.

I know, I’m referring to speed.
People have broken map limits by parkouring our of the map, and taking advantage of speed.

 

[Aminuh]

I know, I’m referring to speed.
People have broken map limits by parkouring our of the map, and taking advantage of speed.

I understand that, but I’m confused on why you’re referencing a completely different mutation/comparing it.
I do understand you think people will exploit the map, but again someone in the game always has sprint, and once again maps seem to be made to prevent exploiting with the murderers and bystanders.

Speed and Sprint are two completely different things.

(I’m sorry if this comes off a little aggressive, not my intention)

 

[Timelord]

In the Double Jump mutation, everyone could sprint, since that mutation was disabled from Murder.

I propose we make a new mutation
“Everyone can run” in the place of Double Jump. The title is self explanatory.

Please leave your thoughts on this.

Double jump was simply chaotic and unfit for murder even though I did enjoy it.

Speed was fine as it just improved mobility yet it was hard to kill the attacker as they can simply move a little.
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Your suggestion makes the murderer unadvantagous in anyway. At least in others it was advantageous well except for double jump.

As well if everyone had the ability to sprint murderer could never get away and kept being chased.

 

[Aminuh]

Double jump was simply chaotic and unfit for murder even though I did enjoy it.

Speed was fine as it just improved mobility yet it was hard to kill the attacker as they can simply move a little.
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Your suggestion makes the murderer unadvantagous in anyway. At least in others it was advantageous well except for double jump.

As well if everyone had the ability to sprint murderer could never get away and kept being chased.

Overall they were bugged and now removed.

I disagree with “makes the murderer unadvantagous” thought it’s mostly in favor of the bystanders, you can blend in with them if everyone can run. It’s also a challenge, which is fun in Murder. The game is becoming bland, we need more mutations. Not saying we necessarily need this exact one, but something.

I’m pretty sure the game goes the opposite route... overall I personally enjoyed the sprint aspect of Double Jump.

 

[choerry]

Double jump was simply chaotic and unfit for murder even though I did enjoy it.

Speed was fine as it just improved mobility yet it was hard to kill the attacker as they can simply move a little.
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Your suggestion makes the murderer unadvantagous in anyway. At least in others it was advantageous well except for double jump.

As well if everyone had the ability to sprint murderer could never get away and kept being chased.

This one actually i believe makes it easier for the murderer to win, the murderer could blend in way more if you actually know how to play the game, nobody who is good at the game isnt going to just have a sword out 24/7 if you know how to hide a sword, i know you have freedom of speech and such but your opinion is 100% wrong

 

[Timelord]

Overall they were bugged and now removed.

I disagree with “makes the murderer unadvantagois” thought it’s mostly in favor of the bystanders, you can blend in with them if everyone can run. It’s also a challenge, which is fun in Murder. The game is becoming bland, we need more mutations. Not saying we necessarily need this exact one, but something.

I’m pretty sure the game goes the opposite route... overall I personally enjoyed the sprint aspect of Double Jump.

Let's not focus on the challenge, let's focus on simply everyone with the same running speed.
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Point A to B will be the same for every player. The murderer can never catch up to the bystander no matter how hard you try. As well getting away is vital in this game.

As well Gun game and double emeralds don't affect game play at all. Getting a gun fast is very common even without mutations. Meaning in normal gameplay if everyone got a gun under a minute or 10 seconds it is the same as gun game and double emeralds. The other two disabled majorly affect game play as they affect skill not how fast can you defend yourself.

This one actually i believe makes it easier for the murderer to win, the murderer could blend in way more if you actually know how to play the game, nobody who is good at the game isnt going to just have a sword out 24/7 if you know how to hide a sword, i know you have freedom of speech and such but your opinion is 100% wrong

 

[Aminuh]

Let's not focus on the challenge, let's focus on simply everyone with the same running speed.
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Point A to B will be the same for every player. The murderer can never catch up to the bystander no matter how hard you try. As well getting away is vital in this game.

As well Gun game and double emeralds don't affect game play at all. Getting a gun fast is very common even without mutations. Meaning in normal gameplay if everyone got a gun under a minute or 10 seconds it is the same as gun game and double emeralds. The other two disabled majorly affect game play as they affect skill not how fast can you defend yourself.

That is ridiculous in my opinion, are you stating that a player would never be able to catch up to another one AT ALL?

Let’s not forget Double Jump was a mutation, and “Point A to B” were still the same. Games did not last that long.

Maps are built with multiple levels, many things in pathways, maps are not a flat surface. A player is bound to hit something and stop sprinting, a player can be killed by the murderer running into them. Numerous amount of things.

Or if the murderer can’t catch up before the game ends, then let the game end. Which I highly doubt will happen.

 

[ABennn]

I personally think having sprint mutation would be good. I don't see why it would be a problem at all it's not like the suggestion is to add a sprinting to every game.

 

[Timelord]

That is ridiculous in my opinion, are you stating that a player would never be able to catch up to another one AT ALL?

Maps are build with multiple levels, many things in pathways. A player is bound to hit something and stop sprinting, a player can be killed by the murderer running into them. Numerous amount of things.

Or if the murderer can’t catch up before the game ends, then let the game end. Which I highly doubt will happen.

Yes I am its simple logic and mate make notice of my other points. Feeding my points you find wrong just is unprofessional.

My statement stands true and you are saying non sense words not real logic.

This thread is not an argument, if you have a problem with me disagreeing on your posts, you can feel free to private message me. I stand by this suggestion and that is your own opinion. The “I disagree” button is there for a reason, that is not unprofessional, that is my right to state what I think.

I don’t think you’re understanding what I’m saying either.
Maps are not a flat surface, there are more than one floor, uneven surfaces, blocks placed in the middle of some maps. Nobody is most likely going to be able to outrun the murderer for the entire gameplay, other wise that would’ve happened in Double Jump as Sprint was also added into that.

Again, you can private message me if you have an issue.

I have no issues with the I disagree button so please on the actual subject instead of a simple little button telling me what you are vibing.
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Double jump was just a mess end of story.
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I don't care if its not a flat surface. Lets say it is and as well at some point the murderer will realise they are not being followed and most people follow them as they are not that competitive not going to think oh hey great idea to win lets do this instead of having fun as most people do.
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AGAIN LISTEN TO MY OTHER POINTS INSTEAD OF DISHING OUT THE POINTS YOU FEEL ARE WRONG.

 

[Aminuh]

Yes I am its simple logic and mate make notice of my other points. Feeding my points you find wrong just is unprofessional.

My statement stands true and you are saying non sense words not real logic.

I am sensing tension here, if you have a problem feel free to private message me.

Though I am not concerned on the points about the remaining two mutations in Murder, which is why I am not mentioning them, they are irrelevant to this thread.
I am suggesting “Sprint”

Let me repeat that maps aren’t flat, there are second floors, uneven surfaces, blocks placed in the middle of some rooms/outside. Nobody can run forever, someone is bound to die. Let’s not forget Double Jump involved Sprint, and was a “Point A to Point B” situation, eventually somebody won the game.

Your logic only works if there are no outside variables included, which there are. Basic law of motion...

As I said if you have a problem feel free to message me!

Edit: I removed that post because I realized you were not speaking about the “I disagree button” it was my mistake.

 

[Timelord]

"I have no issues with the i disagree button" spams i disagree on all of mine and aminuh's posts

K.

Speak for yourself and I disliked the fact just because you dislike a idea you simply disagree. Disagree should not be used as much as you are Ms. Again leave you are just plain rude so please be nice for once.

I am sensing tension here, if you have a problem feel free to private message me.

Though I am not concerned on the points about the remaining two mutations in Murder, which is why I am not mentioning them, they are irrelevant to this thread.
I am suggesting “Sprint”

Let me repeat that maps aren’t flat, there are second floors, uneven surfaces, blocks placed in the middle of some rooms/outside. Nobody can run forever, someone is bound to die. Let’s not forget Double Jump involved Sprint, and was a “Point A to Point B” situation, eventually somebody won the game.

Your logic only works if there are no outside variables included, which there are.

As I said if you have a problem feel free to message me!

Edit: I removed that post because I realized you were not speaking about the “I disagree button” it was my mistake.

They don't point to yours directly besides it being a mutation. Mutation should affect game play in the small scale not a large major impact such as movement in general. Please listen to then than underating them as they are very true and even without mentioning other mutations it affects core game play in win/loss and ect.
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Point A and B lets say are straight. My idea works, yes you are correct different idea. Yet small scale not large scale. My idea mostly works. The gun reloads faster than the large scale giving small scale more possible chance. The murderer can not escape. This gives the murderer major disadvantage.

 

[choerry]

Speak for yourself and I disliked the fact just because you dislike a idea you simply disagree. Disagree should not be used as much as you are Ms. Again leave you are just plain rude so please be nice for once.

They don't point to yours directly besides it being a mutation. Mutation should affect game play in the small scale not a large major impact such as movement in general. Please listen to then than underating them as they are very true and even without mentioning other mutations it affects core game play in win/loss and ect.
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Point A and B lets say are straight. My idea works, yes you are correct different idea. Yet small scale not large scale. My idea mostly works. The gun reloads faster than the large scale giving small scale more possible chance. The murderer can not escape. This gives the murderer major disadvantage.

If i dissagree something i will use the button, i do not go around dissagreeing something someone posts just due to the fact that i hate them , also you do know there is a thing called STRAFE and being able to move in a direction other than straight? also murders can THROW swords

 

[ABennn]

I think it's best if we stay on the topic of the suggestion

 

[Jxliee]

@TheFqllen potential flame war.

 

[Timelord]

If i dissagree something i will use the button, i do not go around dissagreeing something someone posts just due to the fact that i hate them , also you do know there is a thing called STRAFE and being able to move in a direction other than straight? also murders can THROW swords

Strafe is not that used among the new folks. Lets focus on today's murder not a competitive one. Please leave you are just disrespectful honestly.

I think it's best if we stay on the topic of the suggestion

Tell that to them please, I dislike people who don't try to be nice .

i think its best if you wanna be staff you should apply and not try to be one when your not

Thats too far leave now please. Stop being a certain word that I wish not to say.