General Disable Fly During Events

[xKxty]

So my suggestion is fly should be disabled in the hub during hunt events. As an elite, I love the fly command for events, it makes finding mobs so much easier and quicker, and if someone near me is killing a really rare mob, with fly I can really easily swoop in and take the kill. However, as you might've guessed it's pretty biased. Defaults don't have this perk and so finding mobs is harder and slower, and ranked players can easily steal their kills. This then makes winning incredibly hard for defaults. With fly being disabled it would make these events an even playing field, rather than donators always getting the upper hand

 

[KinqOfTheClouds]

There's usually a prize for these events, which makes it much more unfair. +1

 

[Nashi]

Love the idea, possibly players could click a button to start the event once they enter the lobby and they would be warned that they wouldn’t be able to fly until they click to leave the event.

 

[Twixela]

I agree with this, there’s just something I’d wanna add.

If a ranked player didn’t want to participate in the event, they should be able to fly. But if a ranked player were to participate their fly would be disabled. That way it’d be a little bit more fair for ranked players to still access their fly command. Other than that, I like this suggestion.

 

[xKxty]

Love the idea, possibly players could click a button to start the event once they enter the lobby and they would be warned that they wouldn’t be able to fly until they click to leave the event.

Yeah, that'd be a good way to do it so that players who want to do the event have fly disabled but players who don't want to do the event have fly enabled

 

[Spirits]

Yeah, that'd be a good way to do it so that players who want to do the event have fly disabled but players who don't want to do the event have fly enabled

I assume that would mean the players who haven't opted to do the event can't harm the monsters.

 

[KinqOfTheClouds]

I assume that would mean the players who haven't opted to do the event can't harm the monsters.

Yeah, or whatever the event is. Otherwise it'd be abused

 

[Emviar]

I like the idea of making the events more fair for everyone, but this will definitely slow things down for ranked players. Can we consider the option of giving defaults the ability to fly during these events so everyone's on an even playing field and things can still move quickly?

I totally get it if you guys are against this idea, and I'm not really trying to defend my ability to fly in the lobby since I don't really play on the server much or participate in these events. That's just how I would do it.

 

[xKxty]

I like the idea of making the events more fair for everyone, but this will definitely slow things down for ranked players. Can we consider the option of giving defaults the ability to fly during these events so everyone's on an even playing field and things can still move quickly?

I totally get it if you guys are against this idea, and I'm not really trying to defend my ability to fly in the lobby since I don't really play on the server much or participate in these events. That's just how I would do it.

I think either having everyone flying or no one flying is fine. Either way it would make it fair so it doesn't really matter just whatever staff want y'know

 

[KinqOfTheClouds]

I like the idea of making the events more fair for everyone, but this will definitely slow things down for ranked players. Can we consider the option of giving defaults the ability to fly during these events so everyone's on an even playing field and things can still move quickly?

I totally get it if you guys are against this idea, and I'm not really trying to defend my ability to fly in the lobby since I don't really play on the server much or participate in these events. That's just how I would do it.

Defaults shouldn't be able to fly during the event, because it'll be confusing. If a default joins during the event or, more commonly, never uses the hub, they will probably think everyone has access to fly. It's easier for them to not be able to fly.

 

[Spirits]

Defaults shouldn't be able to fly during the event, because it'll be confusing. If a default joins during the event or, more commonly, never uses the hub, they will probably think everyone has access to fly. It's easier for them to not be able to fly.

What about a message sent by PZ in chat, something along the lines of:

Hey, our Monster Hunt is on, and everyone has access to /fly! Note: the command will be revoked for default ranks at the end of the event.

 

[-Ella]

I do feel like they should add that, though it would be hard for the devs to implement.

 

[xKxty]

I do feel like they should add that, though it would be hard for the devs to implement.

Not necessarily, it just depends which "version" they want to implement. My initial idea was just to have fly completely disabled during the event which would just mean taking out that line in the code. However the idea to be able to join and leave the event would be harder. But then again it would make the event a lot more fair

 

[JustStitched]

It makes sense, but theres reason its called a "Perk", its something you get for buying a rank or being a staff member of any type, defaults tend to also do well during events, even if it seems to "Not be fair". Considering not as many ranked players go to events as defaults do. (Check hub), The Defaults have a better chance at hunting mobs. But if more ranked players did do events, there would be some sort of bias. But if a default player is in a lobby with a ton of Ranked players, they could always move to a less-populated lobby.

 

[Emviar]

It makes sense, but theres reason its called a "Perk", its something you get for buying a rank or being a staff member of any type, defaults tend to also do well during events, even if it seems to "Not be fair". Considering not as many ranked players go to events as defaults do. (Check hub), The Defaults have a better chance at hunting mobs. But if more ranked players did do events, there would be some sort of bias. But if a default player is in a lobby with a ton of Ranked players, they could always move to a less-populated lobby.

Some defaults do well in events, but one ranked player still has an advantage over any number of Defaults because he or she is able to fly. You're right, and I get what you're saying about flight - lobby flight is a perk, but it does still give ranked players a distinct (and possibly unfair) advantage over defaults in events. No matter what the ratio of defaults to ranked players, defaults still get around much slower than ranked players, and this may lead to frustration for defaults. I've heard many default players complain (in past events) about ranked players being able to fly during events.

 

[Nashi]

The Defaults have a better chance at hunting mobs.

The defaults as a group would of course likely do better as there are more of them, however it is not very fair for an individual default, since a ranked player would have a huge advantage over them. It doesn’t matter if one ranked player participated in an event, or a hundred, those people would still have an advantage of a prize over default players. Even if a default is in a lobby with no ranked players, the event counts how many items or mobs you picked up/destroyed, so the fact that ranked players can get to these mobs or eggs or whatever is being hunted easier than default players will affect the results of the event.

 

[xKxty]

It makes sense, but theres reason its called a "Perk", its something you get for buying a rank or being a staff member of any type, defaults tend to also do well during events, even if it seems to "Not be fair". Considering not as many ranked players go to events as defaults do. (Check hub), The Defaults have a better chance at hunting mobs. But if more ranked players did do events, there would be some sort of bias. But if a default player is in a lobby with a ton of Ranked players, they could always move to a less-populated lobby.

It's literally pay to win, no one buys a rank for being able to fly in a lobby, so taking it away for an event isn't going to change much. The only thing it is good for is events, but like I've already stated, it's pay to win.

Like other people have said, defaults win events due to there being a lot of them, but if we go by individuals, it's so extremely unfair.

 

[logcn ♡]

Why not just give defaults the ability to fly? Yeah, it gives away one of the purposes to buy a rank, but most people think that they should add more perks to VIP anyways.

 

[Emviar]

I still just think it makes more sense to give everyone, including defaults, the ability to fly during events, and have a message in chat or in the event details saying that it's only for the duration of the event.

(Unless, of course, flight becomes a perk for everyone always and not just for ranked players.)

 

[Nashi]

Why not just give defaults the ability to fly? Yeah, it gives away one of the purposes to buy a rank, but most people think that they should add more perks to VIP anyways.

I don't see a point in giving defaults the ability to fly outside of events. It's a ranked perk and there's no reason defaults need it other than it makes it unfair in events (what this would solve). If more people think that more perks should be added to VIP, this would not be the solution as this would take away perks from VIP.

I still just think it makes more sense to give everyone, including defaults, the ability to fly during events, and have a message in chat or in the event details saying that it's only for the duration of the event.

(Unless, of course, flight becomes a perk for everyone always and not just for ranked players.)

Yeah, I agree, I don't see the issue with it.