General Division of planned perks for E++ and removal of the E++ plan.

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Idea
Basically, I’m suggesting we remove the plan of ELITE++. I’m unsure if it’ll actually be implemented in the long run, based off some of the reactions I’ve witnessed, but if it is, I highly recommend the rank does not get implemented. If it does not get implemented, I think, instead of the rank being implemented with all the extra perks, that planned perks of ELITE++ are divided between the ranks to actually add a decent and useful value to them.

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Why?
Firstly, I’ll discuss why I believe we should not implement ELITE++, which ties into the perk division.
▹ ELITE++ had received many negative reactions from players and has obviously shown its not really wanted, especially when people became aware of it. This doesn’t make ELITE++ look too good. Now, it’s kind of forgotten about, or at least talked about less. Frankly, it raises the question of whether or not it will end up being implemented. Many perks were hinted and had ideas pitched for it, as well as planned officially (ELITE++ colouring both the +’s and commands which tell you “only ELITE++ has access to it”) Which leads me to my second point.
▹ Now, with so many ideas pitched, planned and hinted, instead of wasting them on the rank, that people have shown great distaste for, divide them among the ranks which a few are underperked. Namely the ELITE sector, possibly? The perks can contribute to balancing out the ranks so they can give a better image to the rank and make it more appealing to players, so that they’ll purchase it. Instead of putting it towards another rank which will devalue other ranks, that most people don’t even want, and make less people buy them. Once are ranks are actually balanced, then that’d actually be a good time to introduce a new rank. Otherwise now it doesn’t show very good potential.

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Information
▹ Basically, anything planned, pitched or hinted thats possible to do and give to other ranks, to divide them amongst the ranks, prioritizing the most underperked ranks, to actually balance the ranking system so that the rank meets its value and makes it more appealing on the player base.
• I mean ELITE+ can’t colour two +’s, because they only have one.
▹ If this is successful and more perks are thought of, that would make some ranks over perked, can actually be given to a new rank for the future, which does not hurt other ranks of course. Just making the system better valued and more appealing. If you have bad ranks which make players unhappy, not a lot of people are going to buy them or play if it means some people have unbelievable advantages over you.

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Example

This isn’t something I can just make an example for, all I can go off is the past.
With VIP+, it used to be very ignored, many people would skip this rank and would not buy it. Then we decided to add many perks to balance out the rank. This has, overall, increased the purchasing of the rank and a lot more people are happy with it than not.
Right now, ELITE+’s, for example, only perks which really makes it different from ELITE that people use quite often, is slightly more advanced W/E commands, along with changing your plus colour. Not even that many additional W/E commands either. That isn’t a particularly good balance between ranks with distinct features. Sure, it gets the rank previous perks as well, but you might as well buy the previous rank for majority of the same perks for a lower price.

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Cons
▹ Of course, even though a majority of people hate the idea of this rank, some people actually do like the idea of a new rank, and have suggested them in the past before ELITE++ was announced.
• This can be fixed. If you balance out your current ranks and find space for extra ones, those can be put towards a new rank, which remains in a balanced system. In the long run, dividing these perks will make the ranks more appealing for players, making a slightly happier community.
▹ More money could be given to the network.
• Although yes, in some aspects it can provide money, think how many people would buy any of the other ranks if they were equally balanced. Good ranks, is good sales. One good rank will make sales worse for other ranks. Not completely get rid of them, but it makes the below ranks look less appealing, and make less people want to actually buy them.
▹ I can’t think of any other specific cons for the moment. I’ll update this if needed.

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Pros
I’ve listed majority of these just by suggesting these, but here is them more clearly in a slightly more straightforward section.

▹ The rank name is quite poor and seems like a copy of a very well known rank on Hypixel. [MVP+] This makes the rank come across as unoriginal and has caused some mild controversy when the change was announced first.
• Obviously you can easily change the name to something more creative, but honestly getting rid of that name is kind of a pro for the reason I gave.
▹ People have, some quite visibly, shown dislike the idea of this rank for a multiple amount of reasons. Removing it as of now may be a good option until it’s shown that the majority truly do want this. If the community don’t want something, not many people are going to actually buy it.
▹ Dividing the ideas and perks that are possible will make the rank system more balanced and appealing to players considering purchasing a rank. It may also increase purchases of other ranks and users recommending them to others. This is also good advertisement. The better your ranks and your server in general, the more people will advertise it. Even if its just out of small talk.
• Of course, the server isn’t perfect right now, I wouldn’t say it’s close in this state. But it’s being worked on by our insights teams and staff. Things are finally being really worked on, and hopefully will be released. Why not also try to work on the ranks, which will also help improve gameplay.

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Ideas And Suggestions
So if you have any extra suggestions or ideas, write them down. I will add them if needed!

Apologies for any grammatical errors and mistakes of a similar category. I will update this and fix any mistakes I find whenever I notice them.
 
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add a tl;dr please
this is too much info for probably most people to read
edit: nvm it's at the beginning
 
Honestly, I agree completely. If some of the ranks are 100 dollars, who knows. Elite++ might even be 300$. I do see what you're saying. And furthermore I am going to give a list of PROS and CONS.

PROS
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  • If somebody were to buy it, it would give MCPZ the money they need.
  • There could be many more OP joiners to the server
  • People who bought it I am pretty sure they would love it
CONS
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  • There wouldn't be much of a use for ELITE+
  • Almost nobody is going to spend 200,300, or more dollars to a rank.
  • Many people don't like the idea of MCPZ spending money for a pretty similar, duplicate rank instead of a really good idea.


Unless you can comment on the PROS, I am giving this a +1
 
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Honestly, I agree completely. If some of the ranks are 100 dollars, who knows. Elite++ might even be 300$. I do see what you're saying. And furthermore I am going to give a list of PROS and CONS.

PROS
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  • If somebody were to buy it, it would give MCPZ the money they need.
  • There could be many more OP joiners to the server
  • People who bought it I am pretty sure they would love it
CONS
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    • There wouldn't be much of a use for ELITE+
    • Almost nobody is going to spend 200,300, or more dollars to a rank.
    • Many people don't like the idea of MCPZ spending money for a pretty similar, duplicate rank instead of a really good idea.

Unless you can comment on the PROS, I am giving this a +1
For the pros, some comments:

• For your first one MCPZ can earn more money if each rank was balanced out and more appealing, rather than have one big rank that’s incredibly expensive that people may not be able to buy, and the ranks below which are more in others price range, aren’t desirable due to the lack of appealing perks. If it was evened our, the ranks would be more appealing to new and old players for a price which isn’t completely out of target.
• Could have loads more if all ranks were desirable and gain more purchases due to a more appealing price and perks.
• I agree, someone will love it if they have it, but in the future we could implement a new rank when all other ranks have been balanced out.

I completely agree though, there’s quite a few pros and cons, but to the people who do like the idea and think it would be a nice new implementation, that can be worked on for the future once the current ranks show an equal balance.
 
I'm not 100% certain on what's actually been said regarding the addition of a new rank above Elite+, but I can say for certain our focus right now isn't on the addition of a new rank, nor is it on our agenda any time soon. Right now, our focus is on additional content for the existing ranks and just in general and the push for PartyZone v2 which will make our lives a whole lot easier for developing PartyZone down the line.
 
some how ya gotta make money