Creative 'Banning' of "Mental asylums/mental hospital" rps

[LesbianOnMain]

I've been thinking about this rp topic for a while, and have seen some of it pop up lightly again, and honestly it makes people uncomfortable to summarise it, I've talked in global and people have stated distaste of those rps because they feel isolated because of it, So I'm suggesting that they shouldn't be allowed because of this uncomfortable they cause players in creative, even if they don't go.

I would like you to note I have high functioning autism, and some others and this is why I feel so strongly about this.

Points I've thought on (these are also from others who have added on to this topic)

• For starters, most of those rps aren't well handled they say the patients are abused and that it's almost like a jail, My mother who has worked in nursing for mental health, her work is never like that, Patients are in the mental "Hospital" because they cannot function with supervision or are a danger to themselves and I believe that shouldn't be a topic for children to "roleplay" as because it can lead to triggering subjects in the rp. (for example the "staff" sometimes have tasers or tackle the "escaped patients" when in reality the restraints my mother used are strong hold on the arm and walking with them)
• It sometime glorifies/romanticizes mental health,even with strict plot rules that the guests must follow it's still not a subject that should be made into a game, even if some people are okay with it, if we cannot talk about sensitive topics because some people do not like it then we should be justified to ban this rp because it makes people uncomfortable.
• It demonizes the actual work nurses and doctors use to make sure real life patients are safe, like my point of it being "Jail like" There is a lot of supervision in mental hospitals to make sure they are alright and prevent them from causing harm to themselves (if that is needed). Sometimes people also don't want to be reminded of their times in those places (though I have never been put in one myself) my friends do not like it and seeing people having "fun" while doing it is not fair on those people.
• Like before it can lead to triggering content: The topic of mental health is obviously a sensitive one, and in these rps I have witnessed people doing trigger things and being told not to (some even using the excuse "oh because I do it, it's fine" which contradicts the rule that sensitives topic are not allowed even if you are okay with them)
• If DDLC rps is banned for it's triggering subjects then surely this one shall be, even if it's only a chance for it to happen because even seeing those adverts make people uncomfortable.
• It makes people with mental health problems (like autism,schizophrenia etc) feel isolated: When I expressed my opinion on this, because I was reminded of it, a default @Pandapro9705 (who openly told me she had schizophrenia) said that these types of roleplays make her feel isolated, because it makes her, and I'm sure many others feel like they're not treated like people when we are people.

Overall because this rp makes people uncomfortable in different ways I believe it shouldn't be allowed to try and keep the peace. I would just like to say if you "disagree" and say people are "too sensitive" then you're not reading my points, I believe everyone should be able to be comfortable with their problems and identities and they should have the right to say "we don't want this because of this reason"

Thank you for reading, You can like say if you agree in the comments or smthin or ask more questions if you want to know more details

 

[Brae]

God I cant explain how much I appreciate this, and I hope they are banned, as they're very,, inappropriate for the server.

 

[asuyo]

yes i agree omg. i suffer with ocd, anger issues, depression and anxiety and it makes me feel so uncomfortable even seeing a role play like that pop up. it’s not something that should be role played and if so that’s highly inappropriate

 

[crayondrippings]

I see all of these points as things that could "offend" someone with the mental illnesses. I have a mental illness and I see nothing wrong with those roleplays. Theyre called roleplays for a reason. You play the role as someone or something for the specific theme of the event. Just because it has a sensitive subject in it doesn't mean its offensive or bullying. Its actually quite unique how they portray themselves. They do the research about the illnesses. The point about how they aren't well handled. That is the only good point in this article. I feel like they shouldn't ban them, they should just monitor them and/or check the roleplay before letting it be public. Its not the slightest offensive unless they are trying to offend someone.

 

[xshawtybadx]

I feel like you are doing something right and I agree with you because my sister had mental help problems and she had to go to a mental hospital and they didn't treat her like what they treat people in these role plays. I think you have a great idea.

~PanromanticEmo

 

[Brae]

I see all of these points as things that could "offend" someone with the mental illnesses. I have a mental illness and I see nothing wrong with those roleplays. Theyre called roleplays for a reason. You play the role as someone or something for the specific theme of the event. Just because it has a sensitive subject in it doesn't mean its offensive or bullying. Its actually quite unique how they portray themselves. They do the research about the illnesses. The point about how they aren't well handled. That is the only good point in this article. I feel like they shouldn't ban them, they should just monitor them and/or check the roleplay before letting it be public. Its not the slightest offensive unless they are trying to offend someone.

As someone who has depression, Anxiety, and HAS been hospitalized for those two, as well as being homicidal, I see them as extremely offensive, and they shouldn't be advertised.

 

[LesbianOnMain]

I see all of these points as things that could "offend" someone with the mental illnesses. I have a mental illness and I see nothing wrong with those roleplays. Theyre called roleplays for a reason. You play the role as someone or something for the specific theme of the event. Just because it has a sensitive subject in it doesn't mean its offensive or bullying. Its actually quite unique how they portray themselves. They do the research about the illnesses. The point about how they aren't well handled. That is the only good point in this article. I feel like they shouldn't ban them, they should just monitor them and/or check the roleplay before letting it be public. Its not the slightest offensive unless they are trying to offend someone.

Just because you are okay with it doesn't mean others are, If we cannot talk about other topics because they are sensitive why are people allowed to make these roleplays, I never said it was offensive I said it made people uncomfortable, Some people may do research but not all, and in fact not much is known that goes on inside those places because they're mostly private. They do research on "How to act with this mental illness" and not how it is run

 

[Brae]

I've been thinking about this rp topic for a while, and have seen some of it pop up lightly again, and honestly it makes people uncomfortable to summarise it, I've talked in global and people have stated distaste of those rps because they feel isolated because of it, So I'm suggesting that they shouldn't be allowed because of this uncomfortable they cause players in creative, even if they don't go.

I would like you to note I have high functioning autism, and some others and this is why I feel so strongly about this.

Points I've thought on (these are also from others who have added on to this topic)

• For starters, most of those rps aren't well handled they say the patients are abused and that it's almost like a jail, My mother who has worked in nursing for mental health, her work is never like that, Patients are in the mental "Hospital" because they cannot function with supervision or are a danger to themselves and I believe that shouldn't be a topic for children to "roleplay" as because it can lead to triggering subjects in the rp. (for example the "staff" sometimes have tasers or tackle the "escaped patients" when in reality the restraints my mother used are strong hold on the arm and walking with them)
• It sometime glorifies/romanticizes mental health,even with strict plot rules that the guests must follow it's still not a subject that should be made into a game, even if some people are okay with it, if we cannot talk about sensitive topics because some people do not like it then we should be justified to ban this rp because it makes people uncomfortable.
• It demonizes the actual work nurses and doctors use to make sure real life patients are safe, like my point of it being "Jail like" There is a lot of supervision in mental hospitals to make sure they are alright and prevent them from causing harm to themselves (if that is needed). Sometimes people also don't want to be reminded of their times in those places (though I have never been put in one myself) my friends do not like it and seeing people having "fun" while doing it is not fair on those people.
• Like before it can lead to triggering content: The topic of mental health is obviously a sensitive one, and in these rps I have witnessed people doing trigger things and being told not to (some even using the excuse "oh because I do it, it's fine" which contradicts the rule that sensitives topic are not allowed even if you are okay with them)
• If DDLC rps is banned for it's triggering subjects then surely this one shall be, even if it's only a chance for it to happen because even seeing those adverts make people uncomfortable.
• It makes people with mental health problems (like autism,schizophrenia etc) feel isolated: When I expressed my opinion on this, because I was reminded of it, a default @Pandapro9705 (who openly told me she had schizophrenia) said that these types of roleplays make her feel isolated, because it makes her, and I'm sure many others feel like they're not treated like people when we are people.

Overall because this rp makes people uncomfortable in different ways I believe it shouldn't be allowed to try and keep the peace. I would just like to say if you "disagree" and say people are "too sensitive" then you're not reading my points, I believe everyone should be able to be comfortable with their problems and identities and they should have the right to say "we don't want this because of this reason"

Thank you for reading, You can like say if you agree in the comments or smthin or ask more questions if you want to know more details

To add to this, mental illnesses that are displayed wrongly, (like in the rps) teach young kids that having these illnesses and hurting themselves is "Cool relatable and quirky."

 

[crayondrippings]

Just because you are okay with it doesn't mean others are, If we cannot talk about other topics because they are sensitive why are people allowed to make these roleplays, I never said it was offensive I said it made people uncomfortable, Some people may do research but not all, and in fact not much is known that goes on inside those places because they're mostly private. They do research on "How to act with this mental illness" and not how it is run

I have a few of the mental illnesses they portray in these roleplays. Its offensive if theyre overreacting with the illness they portray, or if they turn it into something different. But if they actually have that illness and roleplay with it, how would you know if they have it or not? I have Schizophrenia and depression, I roleplay as myself, and I see people getting offended by it but im just being myself? I tell them I actually do this on a daily basis and they still get offended. I see how people react to others online without the research and that's why im saying It should be monitered by a staff member or even the owner.

 

[Embovu]

I have a few of the mental illnesses they portray in these roleplays. Its offensive if theyre overreacting with the illness they portray, or if they turn it into something different. But if they actually have that illness and roleplay with it, how would you know if they have it or not? I have Schizophrenia and depression, I roleplay as myself, and I see people getting offended by it but im just being myself? I tell them I actually do this on a daily basis and they still get offended. I see how people react to others online without the research and that's why im saying It should be monitered by a staff member or even the owner.

Just because you are okay with it, doesn’t mean others are.

 

[Brae]

I have a few of the mental illnesses they portray in these roleplays. Its offensive if theyre overreacting with the illness they portray, or if they turn it into something different. But if they actually have that illness and roleplay with it, how would you know if they have it or not? I have Schizophrenia and depression, I roleplay as myself, and I see people getting offended by it but im just being myself? I tell them I actually do this on a daily basis and they still get offended. I see how people react to others online without the research and that's why im saying It should be monitered by a staff member or even the owner.

Why does it matter if the person actually has it?? And not all staff can monitor it, so I don't see how that will help? I still don't think at all that these rps are remotely okay for the server or people on the server.

 

[LesbianOnMain]

I have a few of the mental illnesses they portray in these roleplays. Its offensive if theyre overreacting with the illness they portray, or if they turn it into something different. But if they actually have that illness and roleplay with it, how would you know if they have it or not? I have Schizophrenia and depression, I roleplay as myself, and I see people getting offended by it but im just being myself? I tell them I actually do this on a daily basis and they still get offended. I see how people react to others online without the research and that's why im saying It should be monitered by a staff member or even the owner.

It's already monitiored by staff, triggering content is not allowed and if you would rather make people uncomfortable because of who they are, does that mean I'm allowed to say slurs because I am gay? No it's not because I make sure everyone is okay, Having mental illness is not a point in this discussion, it is about making sure everyone is comfortable and if people are getting "offended" by what you're doing because "that is who you are" no one is telling you to rp as yourself, you have that choice to not make people uncomfortable yet you do, because you say it's you, why would you want to portray yourself in a negative light (only that I can assume) when you can be positive even if it's fake.

I do get your point, but this is not about singular experience and some being okay with it, a majority are not treating it right and if DDLC is banned for its triggering content then surely other rps that have the chance for these content should also be banned? because it's against server rules

 

[crayondrippings]

Why does it matter if the person actually has it?? And not all staff can monitor it, so I don't see how that will help? I still don't think at all that these rps are remotely okay for the server or people on the server.

Because people judge you on how you act in every way possible. They could say your making fun of the illness even though you actually have it and act like that on a daily basis. I find THAT offensive and that it should be dealt with. In the end it all comes back to the opinions on the roleplays and how the staff feel about it. You see how everyone says "Just because your okay woth it doesn't mean others are" But just because your not okay with it doesn't mean others aren't. Society has turned into an offensive, judgy, and overall independent time. I feel like we should roleplay however we feel, and if your offended by it then don't go to the advertised roleplay. If you go to the roleplay just to judge then that's just plain rude

It's already monitiored by staff, triggering content is not allowed and if you would rather make people uncomfortable because of who they are, does that mean I'm allowed to say slurs because I am gay? No it's not because I make sure everyone is okay, Having mental illness is not a point in this discussion, it is about making sure everyone is comfortable and if people are getting "offended" by what you're doing because "that is who you are" no one is telling you to rp as yourself, you have that choice to not make people uncomfortable yet you do, because you say it's you, why would you want to portray yourself in a negative light (only that I can assume) when you can be positive even if it's fake.

I do get your point, but this is not about singular experience and some being okay with it, a majority are not treating it right and if DDLC is banned for its triggering content then surely other rps that have the chance for these content should also be banned? because it's against server rules

If you roleplay as yourself, how is that negative? If I do it comes down to opinion. and everything that you say is a "point" is just opinions. Just like everyone else

 

[LesbianOnMain]

Because people judge you on how you act in every way possible. They could say your making fun of the illness even though you actually have it and act like that on a daily basis. I find THAT offensive and that it should be dealt with. In the end it all comes back to the opinions on the roleplays and how the staff feel about it. You see how everyone says "Just because your okay woth it doesn't mean others are" But just because your not okay with it doesn't mean others aren't. Society has turned into an offensive, judgy, and overall independent time. I feel like we should roleplay however we feel, and if your offended by it then don't go to the advertised roleplay. If you go to the roleplay just to judge then that's just plain rude

So you would rather have a big majority of people feel invalidating, isolated and dehumanizied just so you can roleplay and have fun? where is your justification to that this isn't about how people see you this is how these rps effect people in their mindset and how they effect the real places. If you cannot see that you do not get my point.

 

[crayondrippings]

So you would rather have a big majority of people feel invalidating, isolated and dehumanizied just so you can roleplay and have fun? where is your justification to that this isn't about how people see you this is how these rps effect people in their mindset and how they effect the real places. If you cannot see that you do not get my point.

I don't see how acting in a different way is dehumanizing? People make movies and shows off of mental illnesses but in Minecraft if you portray yourself as a different person you get judged on it? Acting as if you have a mental illness is not isolating or dehumanizing, your just throwing out offensive words and hoping they uplift your point.

 

[LesbianOnMain]

If you roleplay as yourself, how is that negative? If I do it comes down to opinion. and everything that you say is a "point" is just opinions. Just like everyone else

I said I assume, if you do something negative in the roleplay, you're being negative to yourself, I do not know how you roleplay on my own experience. This is not about how you feel and as you roleplay or as yourself, like I said you have a choice not to. Also, My points are my opinions that I am using to justify myself in my opinion. I have also said others do agree with me, a lot actually, so why should they feel uncomfortable? If they have the chance to make sure they are comfortable?

 

[Trap_Goddess]

I have a few of the mental illnesses they portray in these roleplays. Its offensive if theyre overreacting with the illness they portray, or if they turn it into something different. But if they actually have that illness and roleplay with it, how would you know if they have it or not? I have Schizophrenia and depression, I roleplay as myself, and I see people getting offended by it but im just being myself? I tell them I actually do this on a daily basis and they still get offended. I see how people react to others online without the research and that's why im saying It should be monitered by a staff member or even the owner.

Thank you so much for that comment. I have been diagnosed with Asperger's, depression, and gender identity disorder, but these "roleplays" aren't trying to offend anybody! Right now there is little evidence to suggest that these roleplays are having a negative effect on how people perceive mental illness.

What's next?

The Jazz Singer should be banned because it uses blackface, not for the sake of offending people of colour, but for entertainment?

Should X-Men Apocalypse be banned because advertising promotional material shows a woman being choked, not because she's a woman, but because she's an adversary?

Should The Crying Game be banned because it has a transwoman not disclose her sex to a heterosexual male lover, not because Neil Jordan despised those of an abnormal gender identity, but because it was for the complex plot?

I've said this once, and I'll say it again. Life isn't one enormous liberal arts college. You can't escape real life, and real life isn't pretty! People are going to be crude, they're going to be insensitive, and you'll have to accept that. You can't turn your entire life into a fairy tale just because you're offended by things that will naturally happen no matter what.

 

[LesbianOnMain]

I don't see how acting in a different way is dehumanizing? People make movies and shows off of mental illnesses but in Minecraft if you portray yourself as a different person you get judged on it? Acting as if you have a mental illness is not isolating or dehumanizing, your just throwing out offensive words and hoping they uplift your point.

I am not throwing around words, you're going off topic, I am saying that this roleplay effects people and makes them feel dehumanized and isolated, I never said "acting in a different way" is dehumanizing, I said you had the choice to act in a different but thats off topic I will admit I also went off topic. My first point for my suggestion if that this rp effects some people, and some do not agree with me but some do so I speak as someone who does believe it should be banned, because it makes me and others uncomfortable

Thank you so much for that comment. I have been diagnosed with Asperger's, depression, and gender identity disorder, but these "roleplays" aren't trying to offend anybody! Right now there is little evidence to suggest that these roleplays are having a negative effect on how people perceive mental illness.

What's next?

The Jazz Singer should be banned because it uses blackface, not for the sake of offending people of colour, but for entertainment?

Should X-Men Apocalypse be banned because advertising promotional material shows a woman being choked, not because she's a woman, but because she's an adversary?

Should The Crying Game be banned because it has a transwoman not disclose her sex to a heterosexual male lover, not because Neil Jordan despised those of an abnormal gender identity, but because it was for the complex plot?

I've said this once, and I'll say it again. Life isn't one enormous liberal arts college, so if you plan to not commit suicide before you turn 17, you need to grow some thicker skin and get your hands dirty. You can't escape real life, and real life isn't pretty! People are going to be crude, they're going to be insensitive, and you'll have to accept that. You can't turn your entire life into a fairy tale just because you're offended by things that will naturally happen no matter what.

You're completely going off topic of my point, I never said there cannot be complex topics, Im not talking about movies and media and one scene from them, Im talking about that this roleplay makes some people uncomfortable including me and that I believe this is how we can get rid of that uncomfort, but I am not going to force you to change your mind because I cannot do that, we have different ideas.

 

[crayondrippings]

Thank you so much for that comment. I have been diagnosed with Asperger's, depression, and gender identity disorder, but these "roleplays" aren't trying to offend anybody! Right now there is little evidence to suggest that these roleplays are having a negative effect on how people perceive mental illness.

What's next?

The Jazz Singer should be banned because it uses blackface, not for the sake of offending people of colour, but for entertainment?

Should X-Men Apocalypse be banned because advertising promotional material shows a woman being choked, not because she's a woman, but because she's an adversary?

Should The Crying Game be banned because it has a transwoman not disclose her sex to a heterosexual male lover, not because Neil Jordan despised those of an abnormal gender identity, but because it was for the complex plot?

I've said this once, and I'll say it again. Life isn't one enormous liberal arts college, so if you plan to not commit suicide before you turn 17, you need to grow some thicker skin and get your hands dirty. You can't escape real life, and real life isn't pretty! People are going to be crude, they're going to be insensitive, and you'll have to accept that. You can't turn your entire life into a fairy tale just because you're offended by things that will naturally happen no matter what.

Exactly! ive only heard of a few cases of people getting offended, only because the people hadn't done the research on the illness and went on just by hearing the name by someone else. I see nothing wrong with these roleplays, people only hate on them because it portrays a possible sensitive subject. People who ACTUALLY have the illnesses should not be offended, if the illnesses are portrayed correctly. And most of the time they are! and its respected by most of the people who do.

 

[LesbianOnMain]

Exactly! ive only heard of a few cases of people getting offended, only because the people hadn't done the research on the illness and went on just by hearing the name by someone else. I see nothing wrong with these roleplays, people only hate on them because it portrays a possible sensitive subject. People who ACTUALLY have the illnesses should not be offended, if the illnesses are portrayed correctly. And most of the time they are! and its respected by most of the people who do.

It's not by most people, you and I do not know the full opinion on this topic, and I've only heard a few cases of people saying it's not, and it's not hated because of the possible sensitive subject, I have said many times I find it uncomfortable and it makes some people uncomfortable as well because Me and those others do not believe are illnesses are something people should "Have fun" with
But like I said I do get your point and you are allowed to have it, I'm not going to change it but this is how the people who have talked to me about it feels.