Rejected Survival for All?

[Supernqtural]

Suggestion: My Suggestion is that there would be a survival server for all of the players on MCPZ. A server I had been on a lot previous to Party Zone had Creative, Survival, etc... Well anyways, they turned their "Survival" into more of a factions. If Party Zone let all members have access to a different survival server than the Elite that would most likely bring lots more people to this amazing server! Yes adding a survival server would take away from the Elite's special server, but there could be more perks for them on survival such as: Access to /fly, Access to w/e, and Access to special kits such as mob egg, Elite Diamond Armour, and more things like that!

Purpose: This of course is not needed, but it could be very benefical for the server and it's players. The server could sell special kits to the players that would give them access to special perks and items.

Examples: So each ranked player could get a special kit depending on their rank. So maybe VIP get Protection 1 armour and Eff 1 tools (Diamond), VIP+ get Protection 2 armour and eff 2 tools (Diamond), Elite get Protection 3 armour and Eff 3 tools (Diamond) and finally Elite+ get Protection 4 Armour and Eff 4 or 5 tools (Diamond). All ranks could get access to all the same perks they get in creative. Except Elite and Elite+ get access to /fly or just Elite+. Special kits could be Color Kit! (Gives them a stack of every color wool and glass 3 day wait time after using it) Mob Egg Kit (Access to one egg of every mob, 5 day wait time after using it) and Redstone Kit (Access to half a stack of all redstone materials 3 day wait time) Other kits could be added (I would love to help come up with kits.) Also, so the non-ranked players don't get left out! They have the option when joining the server to get a /kit member which gives them all iron armour and tools. (Can only be used every hour). Also ranked players could have access to /heal /feed and /craft. Lastly you could also sell crate keys that are specific to survival that can give people legendary items such as. Knockback 10 hoe, Sharpness 10 sword, Looting 10 Sword, Elytra, Builders Wand (Can place blocks to a radius of 5x5 and can only place 100,000 blocks then it breaks.) and FeatherFalling 10 Boots. (I again would love to help make more legendary items!)

Thanks soooo much for reading this! I hope everyone likes this! Have a good day!

 

[Nashi]

As you said, this would dramatically devalue the Elite rank. Although you did mention some things that could be used to replace this, giving up an entire server in exchange for some kits isn't very equal, no matter how good the kits are (in my opinion). Also, would there be two survival servers, the original Elite one, and the one for everyone?

 

[Supernqtural]

Also, would there be two survival servers, the original Elite one, and the one for everyone?

Yes! It would be horrible to delete all the work the people have done to their bases on the Elite Survival server, or make that server the server for everyone.

 

[Jaylynn]

ok before i read this i already say -1 because it would take away the perk of elite

edit: wouldn't it take away the survivel aspect if they allowed /fly and w/e?

 

[Supernqtural]

wouldn't it take away the survivel aspect if they allowed /fly and w/e?

Yes it would, but I feel that would be kinda the replacement if the Elite/Elite+ don't get their private survival server.

 

[Nashi]

Yes! It would be horrible to delete all the work the people have done to their bases on the Elite Survival server, or make that server the server for everyone.

Adding this would also add another large server for staff to moderate. Creative already needs moderation nearly 24/7, and so does the lobby. This would add to that and make a much harder job for the staff. Also, replacing the Elite and Elite+ perk of Elite Survival with some perks in this survival isn't a very fair trade.

 

[Jxliee]

I believe everything been stated.

This dramatically decreases the value of ELITE, kits do not create an equal balance.
Also the problem isn’t with losing progress, it’s the fact you’re losing one of the biggest ELITE perks which would make it barely above VIP. Which isn’t exactly fair. Especially since some people actually spent almost more than 100€/£/$.
The perks also pretty much takeaway from the idea of survival. It’d practically make it creative except without the ability to get free stuff. You could certainly get around faster with flight, and W/e summons blocks into specific positions.
( most of this is my opinion on the matter )
Adding on, in the elite survival world, almost all the land has been discovered and going beyond the discovery points caused imense lag.

I’ll have to disagree for now. I see this happening sometime in the future, but right now, the low player count kind of interferes with this, along with the possibility of people paying cheaper for ELITE ( seen as it’d be unfair to charge the same price for a very low upgrade ) while others had to pay over 100/€/£/$ which could cause many complaints. Sorry.

 

[Supernqtural]

I see this happening sometime in the future, but right now, the low player count kind of interferes with this, along with the possibility of people paying cheaper for ELITE ( seen as it’d be unfair to charge the same price for a very low upgrade ) while others had to pay over 100/€/£/$ which could cause many complaints. Sorry.

I agree

 

[ABerryyy]

-1 If elite gets access to w/e then they can cheat in anything they want, no way I want this suggestion to be implemented.

 

[Emviar]

Giving everyone on PZ access to survival has already been suggested. This would highly devalue the ELITE and ELITE+ rank. On different servers, I've had perks taken away before. It's not a good feeling.

 

[Tyler]

Normally I would complain that the only people saying "it'll take out the value of Elite" are elites themselves, but this time I agree with them. I admit, having a survival server would leave me hooked, but like... I'm not spending $100 to play Survival if I can do it for free.

 

[Aluux]

I get that elites have their own survival server, however survival is a extremely popular game as well as creative and only limiting it to elites I find isn’t the best idea in my opinion. At this point in time, the playerbase doesn’t seem to be going up anymore and we’ve dramatically gone down from 1000 players to around 200. Sometimes risks need to be taken to improve something, and I believe that adding a survival server for everyone would have a positive affect on the network and bring more players to it, although it will devalue the elite rank there would still be reason to buy it - possibly have a separate world for elites and elite+’s or something like that, but it won’t be a massive change to the rank as they still have perks such as w/e in creative and hats in murder etc which are worth buying the rank for.

 

[ABerryyy]

I get that elites have their own survival server, however survival is a extremely popular game as well as creative and only limiting it to elites I find isn’t the best idea in my opinion. At this point in time, the playerbase doesn’t seem to be going up anymore and we’ve dramatically gone down from 1000 players to around 200. Sometimes risks need to be taken to improve something, and I believe that adding a survival server for everyone would have a positive affect on the network and bring more players to it, although it will devalue the elite rank there would still be reason to buy it - possibly have a separate world for elites and elite+’s or something like that, but it won’t be a massive change to the rank as they still have perks such as w/e in creative and hats in murder etc which are worth buying the rank for.

Why are you so smart?

 

[Jxliee]

I get that elites have their own survival server, however survival is a extremely popular game as well as creative and only limiting it to elites I find isn’t the best idea in my opinion. At this point in time, the playerbase doesn’t seem to be going up anymore and we’ve dramatically gone down from 1000 players to around 200. Sometimes risks need to be taken to improve something, and I believe that adding a survival server for everyone would have a positive affect on the network and bring more players to it, although it will devalue the elite rank there would still be reason to buy it - possibly have a separate world for elites and elite+’s or something like that, but it won’t be a massive change to the rank as they still have perks such as w/e in creative and hats in murder etc which are worth buying the rank for.

I like this idea a bit more, seen as it’s more reasonable and you’re not taking a big chunk of the rank out.
Although, the slight devaluation is a little problem, seen as complaints could pile up saying they paid more money for something that was worth less. Would there be a clear solution to that?
Personally this wouldn’t affect me, seen as I bought my rank on a sale, but for other people this could really aggravate them.
It’s not a big devaluation so it’s probaby fine, and I’m just overthinking.
So really, I wouldn’t mind this.

 

[Aluux]

I like this idea a bit more, seen as it’s more reasonable and you’re not taking a big chunk of the rank out.
Although, the slight devaluation is a little problem, seen as complaints could pile up saying they paid more money for something that was worth less. Would there be a clear solution to that?
Personally this wouldn’t affect me, seen as I bought my rank on a sale, but for other people this could really aggravate them.
It’s not a big devaluation so it’s probaby fine, and I’m just overthinking.
So really, I wouldn’t mind this.

Its also the fact that around 4-5 people play elite survival daily, which means elite survival is also losing its players, If they had more of their friends to play with them without them having to buy a rank then that could increase the playerbase on survival as well as the network. Yes it would devalue the rank sadly, but as I said sometimes its a risk that people have to take to try and improve something. Elites having the option to their own world would benefit the rank as they would get their own resources etc without the others crowding them, it isn't giving them any advantages over other players as they'll only be able to obtain the same items they could in the normal world. Obviously there would be people who complain - but theres those sorts of people for every change we have on partyzone, its something we just have to deal with and move on from.

 

[Jxliee]

Its also the fact that around 4-5 people play elite survival daily, which means elite survival is also losing its players, If they had more of their friends to play with them without them having to buy a rank then that could increase the playerbase on survival as well as the network. Yes it would devalue the rank sadly, but as I said sometimes its a risk that people have to take to try and improve something. Elites having the option to their own world would benefit the rank as they would get their own resources etc without the others crowding them, it isn't giving them any advantages over other players as they'll only be able to obtain the same items they could in the normal world. Obviously there would be people who complain - but theres those sorts of people for every change we have on partyzone, its something we just have to deal with and move on from.

Fair enough, you won me over.

 

[just a person]

I do not agree with some things listed on the thread, such as “Elites get W/E” but I do strongly agree with Aluux.

 

[strawberriess]

Adding this would also add another large server for staff to moderate. Creative already needs moderation nearly 24/7, and so does the lobby. This would add to that and make a much harder job for the staff. Also, replacing the Elite and Elite+ perk of Elite Survival with some perks in this survival isn't a very fair trade.

I get that it would be troublesome for staff to moderate, but if it’s something that the players want, then shouldn’t we give them what they want? This server is about the community after all, and no one can deny that we’ve seen this being suggested a lot. I feel like the kits would be a good perk added to ranked players, but I feel as if the kits are too similar to have people buy another rank just to get “Protection II”. Maybe VIPs and VIP+s could have iron armour instead?

I’m not exactly agreeing with the suggestion, but I’m not disagreeing either. Bringing Survival does devalue the Elite rank, but if they could be guaranteed more perks which equal to a whole survival server to themselves, then I say go for it.

 

[reddd]

I used to play on elite survival all the time. Its rare to see 5 players on at once now, so i dont play it anymore. Reduce it to a lower rank like VIP maybe? Then it would increase the rank purchase altogether while getting more players. I basically agree with Aluux

 

[Timelord]

Well anyone can create a server and make a connection to it. Elite survival might be great yet I would rather create my own server than purchase elite just for the other server.

As well we might adapt a game mode such as prison where you go into survival after doing all the stuff and do faction stuff ya know and it takes away the elite survival.

Elite survival isn't worth buying. As said above other servers have it like that and Elite survival might seem cool and all yet it does not devalue the rank if it is taken away. Some might disagree yet I could simply create a server and call it elite survival and invite non elites to it or simply go onto a different server where their is a simular survival aspect such as prison or factions.

It did mean something when many played it because it was limited access yet now it is kinda devalued over time.

Im not going to vote as I don't believe I need to say anything for this. My opinion is that you can go anywhere or create your own for survival and elite survival is kinda already devalued on its own.