Network Partyzone Ban Reset

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  1. ImSoEdgy

    ImSoEdgy Champion Partier Elite+

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    I think it would be a amazing idea to do a ban reset for everyone on the server! It will increase the amount of people that join bringing the server back to as popular as it was! Some people have been waiting to be able to join back on and use their rank so their money didn't go to waste! I am permanently banned and wished to get unbanned so I could enjoy my elite+ because it was just a waste of money if I can't ever go back on. The money could of been towards a bill for my family. Some of my friends want to play too but they are banned for not banned reasons. Plus alot of the people who are banned probably forgot about the server and won't hack again.

    Just take it into consideration! <3
     
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  2. PrqyForTheWicked

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    A ban reset would allow people who have only just been banned to come back, which would defeat the point of them being banned. If you are appealing and being denied, then the staff don't think you're ready to come back. If you are fairly banned, you deserve the punishment
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    Edit: Jules has put it in much more detail than I have, so basically what was said below is what I mean
     
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  3. AJules

    AJules Event Team Leader Insights Leader Elite+

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    Firstly I'd like to thank you for the suggestion, it's very much appreciated.

    Honestly, I would have to disagree with you, for the following reasons:

    This defeats the purpose of the bans.
    Players are banned for a reason, if we were to just let them back for no reason, we'd be bringing back minor and major rule breakers. This can cause huge damage to the network more so than good. The players have broken a rule, if they want to return, they can appeal to get rid of their ban or to shorten it. Just allowing them back without knowing if they've learnt from their mistakes or have made severe damage will only create toxicity in the community and make it difficult for others. Yes some people have learnt, but if they want to get back, they have to appeal. Some purposely don't appeal as they do not wish to return. No ones banned for no reason, clearly they've broken some rule. If they think it was unfair, they can appeal and so can you.

    Ranks.
    The people who've gotten banned who've "wasted their rank" are the only people at fault. You chose to get a rank, it was a completely optional purchase up to yourself or whoever got you the rank. It is also 100% your choice to break a rule, staff did not force you to break a rule. Maybe another player or friend did, but it is also your choice to listen to them and actually break the rules. If you break the rules, you can't expect not to face the consequences. Again, if you believe you were punished unfairly, you may appeal.

    Staff.
    Bringing back all these rule breakers adds a significant amount of work on top of staff. Yes we want more players, but like my previous point, you're bringing back many rule breakers. There is no doubt, out of that number, people have not learned their lesson and will continue to break the rules. Its even quite likely players are unhappy about their punishment and purposely will become disrespectful on the network due to their history. Maybe its not intentional but it happens, even to people who've returned from a ban. Our staff team is relatively small at the moment and we can't be on 24/7 as a lot of our Staff are active around the same times. Yes there are a few people who aren't, however there isn't a many as we'd like for that. There's not a huge problem handling the new troublemakers as they come, but letting so many back in moments isn't always the best idea, you're adding all these people while new people are joining.

    [ ? ] Is there alternatives?
    There is only appealing, for people to return from a ban. Otherwise, bringing back all the people who've been punished for a reason, isn't a logical solution to gather that many players.
    ➤ However, we could work on advertising the network more on social media's, which we are doing. Maybe branching out to YouTube, reviving the channel. There are other ways of getting more players, yes they're more gradual, but overtime things can grow.

    More players.
    This is the only pro of which you've already listed. That we'd get a huge influx of players. Some of which will have learnt from their mistakes.
    ➤ Again, there are still a lot of people who haven't learnt from their mistakes. Although in a way its a pro, the cons outweigh it. There are other ways of getting players, but this simply isn't a viable option.

    Overall, I will be voting -1. As much as I can see your reasoning, the cons of this outweigh it. If you want to get unbanned, I'd recommend you appealed.
     
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  4. MorphicDream

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    It is worth pointing out that people that have been told they are banned from the network forever and will not be coming back have appealed and been unbanned. So the appeal process does work.
     
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    Yes. If players want to come back and they are willing to appeal, then there’s a chance they will come back.
     
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    Except there are times when people are permanently, unjustly banned, and have found no success in appealing. :T
     
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    That's the staff's decision, and unbanning everyone just because a few people were falsely banned doesn't help in any way.
     
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    Like who? There will always be people that are not welcome here after they have done specific things, but I know for a fact the leadership team has and will continue to change on its stance of perm ban is forever no matter what. We know people change and some people don't so its all balance.
     
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    Defeats the purpose of a ban,

    -1
     
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    I'm not necessarily suggesting they unban everybody. I don't think that's a good idea. I guess I was just trying to strike a middle ground to remind people that appealing doesn't always work when the staff team thinks they have the right evidence.
     
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    Some of the people don’t deserve to be unbanned because their bans were for such a terrible reason. This also defeats the whole purpose of a ban. If you’d like to be unbanned, you can create an appeal here which was created for those who were falsely punished or those who regret their decisions made to make them be punished.
     
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    I seen a lot of hackers back when the server was full of people. Fun times tbh was always fun trying to out play one or a simily of one. I am sure about 200 players have been banned for this as well I seen about 500 people with fly,ka,speed, etc.

    Anyways as many have stated you can always be unbanned as many people do change and evidence is lost or whatever the case is.

    I'm am going to remain neutral as I'm not really against it nor for it. Anywho thanks for the suggestion ^^
     
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    Please, if you’re going to bring that up please understand a few things, 1) this thread isn’t the place, you can talk about your punishments with staff directly. 2) know there are tons of people with different opinions. Everyone I know on here are okay with it.

    I agree mostly. I understand people can change, and a lot do, but I think if people really want to come back after changing they can appeal.
     
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    Uhh apparently not, as I just said, they banned me for preaching, which means they're not open to the Truth. They themselves call it an opinion.
     
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    religion on the internet is usually interpreted as an opinion, even if you think it's the truth
    that might sound rude so sorry
    oh and also IT IS AN OPINION... okay sorry that sounds rude too...
    okay i shouldn't say this.
     
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    It is the truth. Jesus Christ is the Truth.
     
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    This isn't the place to force your religious views on others. PZ is an atheist server
     
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    “Do not flame or intentionally annoy other players » Show respect for all players, do not try to intentionally irritate others. For example, speaking about politics or religion
    ^That’s the section of the rules that show you exactly what rule you were breaking
     
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    PZ isn’t an “atheist” server. It disallows speak of religion as it is a controversial topic and can easily create flame wars. As you so mentioned, you were spouting hate about the LGBTQ+ community which is another disallowed rule— hate-speech & harassment. A majority of the PartyZone player base is in the LGBTQ+ community, so negative opinions where someone expects a safe place is the complete opposite of what someone wants. Appeal if you would like, here isn’t where you should dispute your ban.

    Anyways, this thread has nothing to do with this rule and I believe it’s getting a little off track. Why don’t we go back to the suggestion at hand, hm?
     
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    You're the one forcing religion and beliefs.
    Intentionally? I was showing respect for you guys by telling you that it will get you to Hell. It would be hateful for me to just watch you guys fall into the pit of fire without warning you. Also, you're not showing respect for us Christians either. Seriously, why don't you stop forcing your religion on me?
    You guys are the ones forcing things on people. I never harassed any lgbtq+ people.
     
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