E++ is ew

[Clex]

Hi everyone its clex (the worst player ) so i was talking on pz just now and was saying lets just not have e++ its like not good and we dont want to spend more money like e+ is good and come on the name e++ sounds like another server with the rank mvp++

 

[Mishiaa]

E+ is already the most expensive rank I've ever seen - there's no amount of mc perks that can justify $140.

It's more than 4x the price of Minecraft itself.

 

[Clex]

ikr

 

[-Ella]

It's just going to cost for no reason, which is really dumb.

 

[Iruu]

The rank has yet to be released and same goes with the perks. It's hard to call a rank bad when there are a lot of people hyped for it to come out and what it could bring. We do not force people to buy a rank as it's their choice on if they want to donate or not. I respect your opinion but judging something that has yet to come out is harsh. While $140 seems a lot, I have seen a rank be over $400 and people donate for it. As I said before, it's the persons choice on if they want to buy a rank or not.

 

[Clex]

Yeah ok but still over 140 that’s to much and those ranks that are 400 bucks are like for factions I love pz and want to support it but like what will e++ even have more plots

 

[-Ella]

True

 

[Mishiaa]

I'm not saying E++ is necessarily bad, I think it's strange to release another rank especially while the current ones are already being ridiculed for their high price points and controversially lackluster perks. In my opinion, E+ is already under-perked. I've seen many others argue the same for E+ as well as most other ranks. If anything, I feel the already existing ranks should be improved so the community will be more encouraged to buy them instead of creating a new one that is already sparking arguments. All we've heard is that there's a new rank coming out and there are tons of people already upset by just that. Shouldn't that be an indicator that something's wrong?

 

[Clex]

Or we could just get the e++ perks for ranks ust downgraded

Ex: coins doubled for vip tripled for elite

 

[reddd]

This is definitely going to increase player count, no doubt. Raising the prices is like a player magnet

While $140 seems a lot, I have seen a rank be over $400 and people donate for it.

Most of this server's players consists of teenagers. Do you really think teenagers have $400 to just throw around? $140 is enough as it is

It doesn't matter if it was on another server. Just because it worked on another server doesn't mean it will work on this one. The people who donated for that rank were most likely youtubers or adults, not teenagers and kids.

 

[Clex]

Pz is a community of young to 16ish year old kids (I’m 13 14 on the 24) who don’t have the money and it’s just there parents money e++ sounds good but if it’s the price that’s not good the only way I can see this being fixed is like if you are e+ and upgrading is like 10 bucks

 

[Emviar]

There's nothing wrong with adding a new rank, but when many players in the community feel the current ranks are under-perked and expensive, adding a new rank, even if it's a subscription, doesn't seem like the best approach to me.

If the server needs funds, might I suggest adding more perks to the current ranks instead of making E++? Because let's be honest, who's going to purchase E+ just so that they're eligible to purchase E++? If it's just a cheap subscription upgrade from E+, I bet most of the funds generated from that rank will be from the E+ players, not the rest of the community.

This just doesn't seem sustainable to me.

 

[Valiencian]

There's nothing wrong with adding a new rank, but when many players in the community feel the current ranks are under-perked and expensive, adding a new rank, even if it's a subscription, doesn't seem like the best approach to me.

If the server needs funds, might I suggest adding more perks to the current ranks instead of making E++? Because let's be honest, who's going to purchase E+ just so that they're eligible to purchase E++? If it's just a cheap subscription upgrade from E+, I bet most of the funds generated from that rank will be from the E+ players, not the rest of the community.

This just doesn't seem sustainable to me.

We never said that you would have to buy E+ to get E++. And as Iruu said, it’s an option to donate and buy it. We’ve been giving out new perks for ranks and we have a lot more in mind that we think should go to E++.


Some people will be excited for the rank, some will not.


Also, from looking at the poll that’s quite odd. There are no right or wrong opinions, those are things that people either are excited for or aren’t, as I explained before. Everyone will have different opinions, some may not have one yet. So I suggest you change that.

 

[Aluux]

I’ve stated this on all similar posts like this, Elite++ is not going to be a new rank which is like $200 it’s an add on, this means it’ll be something like $10. It is a subscription, not a rank.

 

[sweeteaa]

I think we should see how E++ is first and then start making judgements and suggest a few tweeks to the rank. From what I see, lots of people are pumped for the rank. I agree that it's slightly overpriced but like Iruu said it's a decision for you to make if you decide to donate to PZ. The fact that people are grasping on rumors and sneak peeks and also making assumptions based off of them is not something that is appropriate, seen as these "rumors" are suggesting things and have not yet been confirmed.

I say until people try to buy E++ and give their opinion on it, we should have it stay. If there is anything that needs to change once we do see it we have the right to express our opinion and suggestions. But until then I wouldn't really bring up this topic until it's actual release.

 

[Mishiaa]

I'm not saying E++ is necessarily bad, I think it's strange to release another rank especially while the current ones are already being ridiculed for their high price points and controversially lackluster perks.

 

[Clex]

Another thing is the community mostly uses creative and since we can already buy plots then what’s the point and for lobby things people don’t really use gadgets just when creative lost soup or somthing I really think e++ will fail as for all the mods saying we don’t have to buy it well yeah you are correct but most of us want the full experience of the server so like we don’t have to be we want to

 

[Emviar]

Also, from looking at the poll that’s quite odd. There are no right or wrong opinions, those are things that people either are excited for or aren’t, as I explained before. Everyone will have different opinions, some may not have one yet. So I suggest you change that.

I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be funny?

Again, I'm not saying E++ is a terrible idea for the future, but I really don't think it's sustainable now.

 

[Clex]

I’m a comedian and joke for the server so when I added opinion is wrong it’s a joke

Emviar has good points but even if e++ is a subscribtion for 10 bucks that would be 120 bucks for a year where you could just buy elite+ for 20 more bucks and a lot of people already say that e+ is under perked so what’s the point of paying 120 when you can get it for 140 ((pretty sure that’s the prices

 

[Springu]

Here's my opinion on the whole thing.

Imagine you buy an AAA game at $60. you enjoy said game, and you finish said game. They then release a cosmetics pack for $120. Would you buy that? I figure you'd say no. It's practically the same here, Minecraft is a $26 game. As said above, the E+ rank is $140. Which is over five times the original amount of the game! Let's go back to the $60 game. If EA had released their cosmetic DLC pack at $120, I doubt anybody would buy it.

For a server that's trying to desperately raise its player count, I feel you should really listen to your community more. If you think about it bare-bones, E+ is just some fancy colours, more building space and flying. Oh and of course, bragging rights.

If you follow the current curve of prices for ranks, which is;

VIP - $20
VIP+- $40
ELITE- $80
E+ -$140

the prices doubles, doubles, and then 1.7x. If we're going to do $140 * 1.7, that would bring the price to a whopping $240. May I remind you that the original price of Minecraft is $26, meaning this rank will now be over nine times the original price of the game.

If the perks of Elite++ are anything like Elite+ (Which are, extremely lacklustre) then I would not recommend buying the rank. However, we don't know what the perks of the rank will be. May I remind you that due to the EULA ( End User Lisence Agreement, in Minecraft's case this essentially means that you can't pay to get gameplay boosts/benefits. E.g, if you were an E+ you would gain double emeralds in Murder. This would break EULA.), the perks will be COSMETIC only. Meaning they will only give your avatar or name visual perks. This would be something such as changing the colour of the + in E+, or giving your character a glow. Neither of these give gameplay benefits.

This is all I have to say to the subject, and if you're buying a rank purely to support the growth of the server, good on you! But if you're like the rest of us, and would like some perks in return, then this rank may not be for you.

Thanks for reading what I had to say.