Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by PrqyForTheWicked, Apr 15, 2019.
You can literally eat people.
That's not child friendly.
I have to agree with you to a certain perspective yeah, it isn’t the friendliest nor a great example.
I’d recommend taking away the ability to eat players but instead change it to a certain food type. It could be something like /eat cookie. A con to this would be players abusing it for inappropriate uses. This can be avoided by limiting certain commands like /eat <choice 1-4> or something relative to that level.
Overall, I agree with the suggestion- it can make players uncomfortable to a specific degree.
Yeah, that'd be really cool, actually.
Seems to me like you're just misconstruing it.
I would have made a joke about you having a dirty mind or something, but I'll be honest - I probably thought about the same thing you did after you said it's not child friendly. But, yeah, it's not explicitly stating anything. It's an emote.
tbh I just find this emote extremely strange, but I do agree with you.
"Person 1 ate person 2"
It doesn't take a dirty mind to see what's wrong with that.
If I were to guess it was originally meant to be like one of those pop tart or cereal eating each other commercials. Although it still is pretty contriversional and if we do regain the same player base as before ,13-16 ,I wouldn't be surprised if people used it out of original context.
So that's a plus +1 from me
Firstly I'd like to thank you for the suggestion, it's very much appreciated.
Honestly, I would have to agree with you, for the following reasons:
➥ Many people can interpret this wrongly
Even though this emote hasn't been around that long, it's rather clear players have been interpreting this otherwise, I mean it's even evident in this thread. No doubt some people will use this in poor context. Although we can deal with those users who use the emote wrongly, it could easily be avoided if we were to change the emote slightly to avoid it coming across as inappropriate altogether. The fact so many people already have found this inappropriate is a bit a of a signal players aren't interpreting it how it's intended.
➥ It's somewhat controversial
As mentioned by TimeLord, this is actually a bit of a controversy at the moment. I mean topics which are surrounded with negative controversy on the network are avoided altogether, pretty much. People are multiple sides and it causes conflict, as well as the fact it can result in even more people interpreting the emote incorrectly and just spreading the wrong idea to younger and even older players. People will and probably have used this emote outside its original context.
[ ? ] Is there alternatives?
Of course there are, for example, it could be changed to something like this:
/eat ➤ [User] eats a muffin.
/eat [User] ➤ [User] steals and eats [User]'s muffin!
Practically what lovely Twixela has mentioned.
✧ Taking into consideration, /lick
Although what I've said is more in favour of the suggestion, I feel its necessary to take into consideration that the lick emote can be interpreted in an incredibly similar way. It was interpreted the same way as how /eat is interpreted now. It eventually died down and people rarely react this way to the emote, or at least publically.
➤ However, I must admit, this one is a bit more controversial on the network, especially at the moment. The reaction itself is a bit bigger too, I've already been messaged on multiple occasions asking why this emote was implemented. Honestly, I feel it's a lot easier for people to mistake this one for an inappropriate feature, I mean in recent times, I've seen this stuff outside the network used inappropriately and it's fairly clear it's not just playful banter. I know it's certainly not intended in any way on here, however when it's been brought up so much as inappropriate around other places, it's not hard for many people to have their mind go down a gutter. Not everyone is like this, but based off the reactions, it's clear a lot of people have seen it this way.
Overall, I'm going to have to give this a +1, unless a stronger opinion arises, for the reasons I've stated above.
Instead of deleting it as a whole we should edit it/create an alternative for it. A recent thread was just made which I believe could be a good alternative for this emote. You can find the thread here.
I feel like I'm interpreting the eat emote in two different ways that are both wrong lmao. Like yeah there's the dirty part but I mean, who eats other humans? no ONE It's just odd
Yeah, I kinda feel like it's being misconstrued.
why does it matter lmao. if you see it in a dirty way then you're probably able to handle that. doesn't hurt anyone.
Well, since the triggered emote was removed for being controversial, then this one should be removed too. And I wasn't seeing it in a dirty way, I saw it in the literal, illegal way.
i would have disagreed with that one as well; anything can be misconstrued. if somebody can't take words that appear on a screen in an online game which obviously don't have the intent to harm or offend
It's not that it is controversial or misleading. The fact of the matter is people will use it in a inappropriate way. Can't avoid it. Removing it puts less work on staff. No need to put a lot of work on staff just for a emote.
Exactly. Putting this emote there is practically asking someone to use it in a wrong way.
okay fair point, i guess it is just the struggle of censorship
I see where the context comes into play, but eating someone is inappropriate? Really? It’s clearly a joke unless more context is added, which can then be punishable for being inappropriate. I have always thought of it as a joke, like when someone goes *nuzzles you OwO*. You have to really be digging at something to go, “damn, that’s inappropriate!”. I literally had no idea why people thought it was inappropriate until I sat and thought about it for a good five minutes.
Adding in the case of the “triggered emote”, that was a lot more serious, as people here struggle with mental disorders all the time and do have their quirks that trigger them. That one is understandable and I was on the fence about for a long time, and I still don’t really know where I stand. That entire case was mostly about how players felt taken aback by a safe place seemingly making a joke about mental disorders. This one is about the contextual nature which resides in the player. Sure, remove it if you don’t want people using it out of context, but you’re also removing it from people who use it to make their friends laugh.
I also gave a few thumbs up on some well constructed arguments that made me realize the context a bit more. Removing it is sort of pointless. It’s an emote that isn’t meant to cause harm or be inappropriate in any way whatsoever.
TL;DR: Take it with a grain of salt. If it’s taken out of context in any way that breaks the rules, staff can punish accordingly.
Not everyone every has that insight. Not everyone will be like hey it's a joke. Either way it will somehow be taken the wrong way and it's better to not allow the error unless it can be prevented. Therefore changing it to eats *insert fancy food* is a lot better as it won't be taken out of content.
As well this is the trigger emote scenario this involves the player and sometimes 2 and some probally don't like the idea of being eaten this could easily be harrassment.
How much more context do you need? PZ promotes how child friendly it is, yet there's an emote which basically promotes cannibalism, which is illegal and ethically wrong in so many ways, if you take it the literal way, that is. If you take it the dirty way, however... Well, I'm sure you can figure that out.
I could say the same about the triggered emote.