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I believe Elite and up should be the only ranks to beta test games.
Now before Vip/Vip+ complain about this idea, hear me out.

Okay, before I fully describe the suggestion, I just want to mention that a lot of players bought a rank, whether it's Vip or Elite+, it doesn't matter.

Elite and up are the first ranks to beta test the games, and then vip and up. Defaults on the other hand have to wait until the game has been released. When a game gets published, most of the players (referring to ranked players) have already played the game. It's like a "been there, done that" situation. At the end, the ranked players have already experienced the game and may or may not play it again. Leaving default the only 'rank' that hasn't played the game before. Now if Elite and up are the only ranks that can beta test games, then that leaves Default-Vip+ to play the game when it has been released.

This is only my opinion on this, but please feel free to share you opinion on it.
 
After the game is beta tested, we keep releasing new updates and implementing suggestions so people don't get bored of it. This suggestion would simply delay this effect by about 1 or 2 weeks and if no updates were released, I'm sure even default players would get bored of it eventually. I'm not sure whether people getting bored of new games is an issue (it very well might be), I just don't believe this suggestion would combat the issue.

If this suggestion were to be implemented, any VIP or VIP+ member would lose an ability they paid for and that might have been the only reason they purchased the rank. It also pushes the idea that the more money you pay us, the more we care about you which is not true. I myself am a VIP member (that's how much I've donated in money) and I would probably be disgruntled by a feature being taken away from me if I wasn't a staff member.

As this is a new suggestion, I'll leave it open to see what the community thinks as it's definitely something for the community to discuss for the moment :p
 
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_LaserKiller3000_ said:
Try just thinking how you would feel if you didn't get to beta test as a elite
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I would be completely fine if my rank couldn't test beta games, (Don't get me wrong,) I do love beta testing games and giving my ideas to the creator of the game but I'd rather play a finished game with a lot of players, than play a half finished game with 2-5 players on it. I'm just saying, if we limit who gets to beta test games, we'll maybe have more players playing the actual game once it's released. I do understand that some of you paid for a rank to test beta games but I'm only suggesting this because I believe it will increase the number of players that play released games.
 
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Etgo said:
I would be completely fine if my rank couldn't test beta games, (Don't get me wrong,) I do love beta testing games and giving my ideas to the creator of the game but I'd rather play a finished game with a lot of players, than play a half finished game with 2-5 players on it. I'm just saying, if we limit who gets to beta test games, we'll maybe have more players playing the actual game once it's released. I do understand that some of you paid for a rank to test beta games but I'm only suggesting this because I believe it will increase the number of players that play released games.
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I believe the main reason we Beta Test games is to give FEEDBACK to the Dev who made the game. Like in Colour Chase. Morphic is accepting any feedback given to him about the game, Positively or Negatively. That is of course it's not insane like have flying spaghetti monsters hovering the game.

But you are right about more people playing games when they are released.

Just thought I would drop by and reply to this.
 
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Etgo said:
I would be completely fine if my rank couldn't test beta games, (Don't get me wrong,) I do love beta testing games and giving my ideas to the creator of the game but I'd rather play a finished game with a lot of players, than play a half finished game with 2-5 players on it. I'm just saying, if we limit who gets to beta test games, we'll maybe have more players playing the actual game once it's released. I do understand that some of you paid for a rank to test beta games but I'm only suggesting this because I believe it will increase the number of players that play released games.
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I mean, there is always the option to remove the perk from future VIPs and VIP+s. All you’d have to do is give all the current VIPs and VIP+s something signifying that they are a beta tester. Something like [BT]. You could also just do that for all the ranks.

Just an idea..

EDIT: Staying neutral for now.
 
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Etgo said:
I would be completely fine if my rank couldn't test beta games, (Don't get me wrong,) I do love beta testing games and giving my ideas to the creator of the game but I'd rather play a finished game with a lot of players, than play a half finished game with 2-5 players on it. I'm just saying, if we limit who gets to beta test games, we'll maybe have more players playing the actual game once it's released. I do understand that some of you paid for a rank to test beta games but I'm only suggesting this because I believe it will increase the number of players that play released games.
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I understand entirely and you are right in some ways, but even if we didn't let VIP's and play test first we may struggle to have a good amount of players in the game and I think in the end what it comes down too is how well advertised has SG been, we haven't had that much advertising on it and there's an answer. But that's in my opinion why games have been struggling, just think how well murder was advertised, and look how many players it brought in. If we advertised SG like murder was advertised (except for it being the first ever SG).

If you struggle to understand that I'll put it this way, if the server added a brand new minecraft Gamemode that no one on any server has and it was wasn't advertised, how well do you think it would go?
 
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I stand nuetral due to my current opinion on this.
@Etgo, so, What I say to this is:

Elite/E+ Gets to Alpha Test.
VIP/VIP+ Get to Beta Test.
 
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_LaserKiller3000_ said:
I understand entirely and you are right in some ways, but even if we didn't let VIP's and play test first we may struggle to have a good amount of players in the game and I think in the end what it comes down too is how well advertised has SG been, we haven't had that much advertising on it and there's an answer. But that's in my opinion why games have been struggling, just think how well murder was advertised, and look how many players it brought in. If we advertised SG like murder was advertised (except for it being the first ever SG).

If you struggle to understand that I'll put it this way, if the server added a brand new minecraft Gamemode that no one on any server has and it was wasn't advertised, how well do you think it would go?
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I totally agree with you about the advertising.
 
Also, this would lead to even less people beta testing games, it’s already a challenge to get the correct amount of people in a beta game but if you only allow elites it will make the beta period of testing games about 4 times longer than it should be.
 
Aluux said:
Also, this would lead to even less people beta testing games, it’s already a challenge to get the correct amount of people in a beta game but if you only allow elites it will make the beta period of testing games about 4 times longer than it should be.
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You have a point there.
 
Currently even though its a called beta testing Elites essentially are the first people to actually test the game so they do Alpha test and then the VIP rank beta test. As for the ranks getting bored smaller games are in beta less time than bigger games and some of the bigger games like build swap didnt really go down well with the tester, hence why its on hold for the moment. It is a struggle to get people to play games and the point is that you are able to test a game and actually have dialog with the developer of the game, not many networks do that. You should all beta test Colour Chase and post lots of suggestions for things!
 
Etgo said:
I believe Elite and up should be the only ranks to beta test games.
Now before Vip/Vip+ complain about this idea, hear me out.

Okay, before I fully describe the suggestion, I just want to mention that a lot of players bought a rank, whether it's Vip or Elite+, it doesn't matter.

Elite and up are the first ranks to beta test the games, and then vip and up. Defaults on the other hand have to wait until the game has been released. When a game gets published, most of the players (referring to ranked players) have already played the game. It's like a "been there, done that" situation. At the end, the ranked players have already experienced the game and may or may not play it again. Leaving default the only 'rank' that hasn't played the game before. Now if Elite and up are the only ranks that can beta test games, then that leaves Default-Vip+ to play the game when it has been released.

This is only my opinion on this, but please feel free to share you opinion on it.
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It would be rather unfair and I rather think only players with ranks should beta test so -1 sorry
 
Fox said:
This aint applying for Non-Ranks to beta test. This is to make it so ONLY Elite and up can beta test (Aka make it so Vip's and Vip+'s cant beta test)
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Still vip should get to beta test because thet are both official donators of the Mcpz Community
 
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UnicornzWifi said:
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that wouldn't be fair most people bought the rank for that reason that would make pz less good because 1 by 1 everyone would leave pz because of THAT reason and ur really being selfish I mean what if nobody can afford elite huh ITS 60 DOLLARS I mean I hate this idea but you are really talented please don't stop making suggestions
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I'm not being selfish, and please don't ever call me that. I'm not making this suggestion because I want Elite/Elite+ to be the best purchasable rank in PartyZone. I'm suggestion this because I want to make the released games have more players, (Party Games, Splatter etc.) since hardly anyone plays them. But like Aluux said, it will take longer to publish it since fewer player will be able to give feedback.

As I nobody likes the idea, I'd like to lock this thread. @Desertmeadow
 
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